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12-May-2008
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My main gripe is knowing, soon after you have sat down to be interviewed, that the job you have yearned for for so long... is going to someone else (probably internally) and that, no matter how good you think the interview is going, at the back of your mind you know you're not gonna get it!

Then comes the phone call bang on 4pm

How do I know this?  Well, recently I went for an interview at the local Council, a job that I have done within another Council. Brilliant I thought, bound to get it!  How wrong could I be?  Firstly, I had put more effort into my clothing than the 3 panellists, never a good start if you are being interviewed by 3 women (they get jealous don't you know).  The next thing was being confronted by 3 blank faces whenever I answered a question, totally disinterested in what I was saying even though they wrote down SOME of what I said.  Also, one question tends to lead swiftly on to another and I am not asked to elaborate on my skills, whether they be interpersonal (God I hate that word) or typing, it all becomes, well, rushed is the best I can describe it.

Then comes the phone call bang on 4pm.  I reckon they always ring up the unsuccessful candidates first to "get them out of the way."  Then you get the dreaded words, "Your interview went extremely well....but" and the excuses come after that for me not getting the job, namely I didn't elaborate on my skills (well, you didn't ask I'd be tempted to say).  Then you put the phone down and think about what you should have said which is, "It's obvious you have given this job to an internal candidate judging by the total lack of interest shown by the 3 of you."  But I didn't... I just took it on the chin instead.

Another example of a job being earmarked for someone even before I sat down to be interviewed was a couple of years ago, for the NHS.  The 2 women on the panel had pen and paper but CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ANYTHING DOWN!  Not surprisingly, I didn't get the job and the woman "rejecting" me on the phone said the reason they didn't write anything down was "we wrote detailed notes from memory after the interview as we found it can be very off-putting for candidates."  Yeah, right!

The way to win over people in an interview is simple; smile and hope for the best.  The first few seconds count!  One woman got a job where my Mum works because the interviewer "liked her suit."  If they go the other way and become jealous there's not a lot you can do about it!

By: Jane


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More things to add to the list of law changes

Candidates must be allowed for up to six months to inspect all application forms and papers associated with a job vacancy.

All job vacancies must be advertised

Candidates must be allowed to have a "friend" appointed to the panel of interviewers.

The laws of procedure as that which apply in court room for obtaining evidence from a witness must be extended to the interview. That is the asking of leading questions must be made illegal.

"Lotteries" for jobs should be forbidden.

An aggrieved candidate who wins an appeal must be entitled to up to 1 year's salary compensation the job applied for would have paid.
*Change the Law  26-Jan-2008 07:20

 
Seems like to me the whole job application and interviewing process especially if the job has been advertised publicly has got to be up front and honest. The laws need changing.

A complete list of candidates/applicants should be published
A complete list of those shortlisted should be published
The winner's name should be published
Written reasons for Rejections of any candidate or application should be given.
Interview expenses should be paid. Postage should be free. Envelopes provided free where required.
Companies should use standardised application forms.
Companies must hire disinterested third party outsider to attend the interview.
Online application forms should be standarised and not require/use proprietary software, like Word for Windows, to complete them.
The receipt of all applications should be acknowledged.
Procedure for appeal should be published.
The names/addresses of those interviewing should be published.
The interview should contain no Equal Opportunities questions
The list of questions to be asked in the interview should be published in advance.
Interviews which "test the candidate's knowledge" should be banned.
*Change the Law about Jobs and Interviews  25-Jan-2008 17:52

 
I was recently part of a panel of interviewers and we were interviewing for two positions. We spent an entire day doing this and at the end of the day had a meeting with our boss. The first thing she said was to ask if we'd offered the job to a specific applicant yet. Turns out it was her sister-in-law and she'd prearranged to give her the higher paying job, without notifying myself or one other panel member. The other two were in on it. We chose someone for the other job, who was certainly better suited to the higher paying job. I was mad because I'd wasted my day seriously interviewing people when it had predetermined anyway. I felt like a puppet for her old girls club.
*Annoyed Interviewer  25-Jan-2008 15:06

 
I've been in the same situation as you plenty of times jane. However, when I know something and decide to tell them I'm aware of the job going to a best mate already working there and they ask why I would believe such a thing, I relay that my father works for the company, as a manager above you and has been informed by others about a biased interview. *new trouser time*

This being said because my father really is a lvl 3 manager and is part of the management that runs the area I applied for.
*Sorry to hear about that  24-Jan-2008 21:59

 
Unless you have

a) Competed in at least three paraplegic Olympic games.

b) Own 5 lesbian cats.

c) Speak Welsh with a pure accent from Ceredigion.

d) Know the Equal Opportunities Acts inside out; have three cousins on the Equal Opportunities Commission.

e) Or are newly arrived from the new commonwealth on a banana boat.

f) Fourteen undeclared relatives on the Council.

g) or can add up in Jamaican: one, two ... many

No man you are not goin' to get shartliistted at all far dis jab.
*Hocus Pocus  22-Jan-2008 17:38

 
It's their Loss Jane, Keep your chin up something will crop up, you just got to persevere
*Jonny  22-Jan-2008 15:13

 
That's a real shame, Jane. But don't despair there will be a job out there, and better to not start than to have a shocking "moment of realisation" when you do!
To be honest, during interviewws I make very basic notes, and generally on the candiates CV. I try not too but sometimes I need to remind myself on questions to ask rather than interupt.

However, I know what you mean about applying for jobs that have already gone, I work in IT and a couple of years back there seemed to be an abundance of jobs, however I soon found out that these were "fishing trips", basically the agency put a really interesting and lucrative job on the web to entice you to apply, and then when you applied and then contacted them they told you that that position had just been filled and thatthey would add you to their database!
*Pugs  22-Jan-2008 08:39


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