Make them work for benefits
Amazing isn't it? Someone has finally realised that there's pretty large number of lazy individuals in this country who are more than happy to sit on their backsides, do nothing and claim benefits. It's just a shame that it's the Conservative opposition party that's finally woken up to this reality and not the present government. For once in my life I'm considering voting Tory at the next election and my parents would probably turn in their grave if they knew.
We all know who these people are. I'm willing to bet that each and every one of us could think of a couple of faces that fall into the "work shy" category. A friend of a friend, someones son or brother. They don't work, have never worked and have no intention of working. They'll sit at home watching daytime telly, spending their benefits on fags and booze. Maybe they are a bit younger and don't quite fall into that stereotype. But they know the rules and they play the system just the same.
I'm not talking about people who are genuinely unemployed here. A couple months between real jobs is one thing, but a couple of jobs in five or ten years is another matter all together. This is seriously taking the proverbial by the way, and I for one don't like the thought that my (seriously inflated) taxes go towards keeping these benefit scroungers in a comfy lifestyle whilst other more deserving individuals struggle to make ends meet.
Some people genuinely can't work for health reasons
The men and women who are genuinely unemployed have my sympathy and deserve help. They will through their own merit find work and may well still struggle to survive (some employers should be locked up for taking advantage too!), but they'll take pride in themselves and earn a living for themselves. Likewise some people genuinely can't work for health reasons and they too deserve assistance. As for the fraudsters who claim incapacity benefit when they know damn well they can work, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
I just can't understand the all take and no give attitude of these individuals. How can you feel good about yourself knowing that you spend a large chunk of your life living off other people and giving nothing back? It would be interesting to see how these leeches would fair if there were no benefits system.
So go ahead, let's get the long term unemployed out doing some useful community work and cut back their benefits. It might look like a form of punishment for being lazy, but if the cap fits...
By: Working man
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Slappers like 'Respect our government' should have the kids put into care and be made to go to work. or, preferably be given an IQ test after the first child and sterilised, if, as I suspect it came out as a single digit.
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The govt idea to make people work for benefits is a joke and just window dressing to make it appear they are doing something. I know one person who is 35 and hasn't worked for many years. He was put on this 'scheme' to do community work and every time they rang him and told him to turn up at certain places to clean up parks etc, he simply told them that it would mean paying a bus or train fare to get to those places and as the employment office wouldn't pay for that he was exempted every time, it is a total joke.
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I think the work schemes are good for the benefit claimants and the country as it gets people used to getting up in the morning and also gets troublemakers doing something other than loitering around the streets up to no good. I agree that we all know a bunch of fully capable people living the easy life on incapacity benefits. I know several myself. I couldn't get a f/t job so I got one working p/t. I was worse off than claiming but still got some housing benefit because of low wages but at least wasnot much a burden on the taxpayer. It demonstrated my motivation to employers and now I work f/t. You got to work even if it's cleaning as no one owes you a living I'm afraid.
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Lazy people why don't you work even p/t at least you'll be contributing something
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Problem is if they had to work for benefits and did not bother to another department would pay their girlfriend so she could feed the child. If we have to pay people for not working (tax payers money) employ them on councils, police, schools etc (tax payers money) oops I have fallen into the same trap after all, all the money is raised by taxation!
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:)) Ignorance is a bliss, isn't it ?
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@ Dave
Don't be put off by scroungers, because at the end of the day they are just worthless people sucking on the economy like leaches. You see, most people blame the government for cutting benefits but the economy cannot sustain itself unless the vast majority become productive. If you stop working, if i stop working, the country is going to hell, and trust me, it can get a lot worse. I am not going into politics now or into the corporate greed or the flawed capitalism system, the change has to come from the people. Personally, i cannot live sustained by others, i've worked since 16, paid for my studies, now i'm fully independent and i have no one to thank but me, and i'm just an average Joe, with no special skills.
Don't be put off by scroungers, because at the end of the day they are just worthless people sucking on the economy like leaches. You see, most people blame the government for cutting benefits but the economy cannot sustain itself unless the vast majority become productive. If you stop working, if i stop working, the country is going to hell, and trust me, it can get a lot worse. I am not going into politics now or into the corporate greed or the flawed capitalism system, the change has to come from the people. Personally, i cannot live sustained by others, i've worked since 16, paid for my studies, now i'm fully independent and i have no one to thank but me, and i'm just an average Joe, with no special skills.
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Well, guess what... I am a eastern european, i arrived in England in 2008 with no special training, only with the will to work and make a better life for myself and i made it, having two jobs in the UK. However, i haven't taken the jobs off any brits because i am self employed. As a consequence i pay substantial tax working at least 80 hrs/week, and that is fine by me since some of the tax that i pay is going to infrastructure and government services which are some of the best i've seen in Europe. What really puts me off though, is lazy brits complaining that "i" am stealing their jobs, while they are living off benefits paid by me just because they can't be bothered to move their ass of the couch and get some professional training, which is provided FREE in this country by the government. There really is no excuse not to find work in the UK, even with average professional training. Somebody wrote that she had 9 children with three men in the past 13 years taking credit for all the "work" se had done by giving birth. How is that benneficial to society in any way and how is that even normal in these times ?!? Personally i think the government should cut the bennefits alltoghether for people that are able to work but choose not to. They need to be forced into labor so that they do not represent a waste of space as (i am not sorry to say) they are right now. If i made it here, as an outsider, the locals should have no problem, they just need to be competitive and get off their asses for a change !!!
PS: tinkerman, you are talking about age and gender discrimination, but you are complaining about eastern europeans, thus being subjective. Newsflash, "we" are subject of national discrimination every single day, but we don't complain about it (even now,as some of you read these lines). As i said before, you people need to be competitive. Look at the Germany, and their work philosophy, we should all learn from them, they are Europe's top economy for a reason (although you hate their guts).
PS: tinkerman, you are talking about age and gender discrimination, but you are complaining about eastern europeans, thus being subjective. Newsflash, "we" are subject of national discrimination every single day, but we don't complain about it (even now,as some of you read these lines). As i said before, you people need to be competitive. Look at the Germany, and their work philosophy, we should all learn from them, they are Europe's top economy for a reason (although you hate their guts).
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Having kids is a serious decision, and a poor lack of maturity on both you and your three dads if you think that it was going to be possible to sustain that family size out of your own pocket. No wonder they don't pay you anything!
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Ive got 9 kids to 3 dads and none of them pay me anything which forces me to live on benefits. No job would give me what I get now (£1000 week) im happy with the present government. Im not lazy as ive given birth 9 times. Its a doddle to anyone who wants to do it, my eldest is 13 and she looks after them all for me.
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Respect our government - 27-Apr-11 06:45
Seems like everybody in the country is tee'd off. And the real effects of the public sector spending cuts haven't started to bite yet.Also, just wait untill public sector final salary pensions schemes are given the chop, Oh you lucky people.
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What jobs? with 3500 applicants for 25 jobs at my local supermarker before it had even been built how can anyone point the finger at anyone any more? My wife works 25 hours a week and the job centre classes it as full time work so I cannot claim benefit above job seekers allowance which runs out in 1 month, have applied for approx 250 jobs and havent even had a reply. So when some nut pontificates on "lazy" scroungers it makes my blood boil. there are some out there who are scrounging off the state but they make up about 5% of the total, its the other 95% who are going to be penalised because they are in the same situation as the scroungers. Add to this age discrimination and sexual discrimination and you are going to get a large number of people who will never get a job and be blamed for being unemployed. Why do we allow immigration and eastern european workers to come here if there are 2.5M unemployed? how can labour create 10,000 new jobs and then 92% of them were given to immigrants, its the employers who are to blame they offer work to immigrants and then complain about the high taxes they have to pay for people not to work. answer that one.
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I go out to work at 7:30 and return at 5:30. I leave two people at home who sit on their backsides all day. One is retired so fairs fair, excused- but only just! The other is a 37 year old woman who's idea of a good day is to make cakes or buscuits and take about 4 showers and wash everything in her room in the washing machine and hang it on the line and who to my knowledge has never had a full time proper job , Both hog the shower in the 6-8 slot so you have to be careful to get in there...
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Hello Everyone, I want to share with you my experiences with the 'Dole Scroungers' -
I own and run a small shop and work around 50 hours a week, I am very lucky to own my own flat (outright) bought by hard work and saving since I was 16, - this is in complete contrast to my upstairs neighbor.
He is at least 20 years younger than me, the three years he has lived there he has never worked, the flat has broken windows, he sits outside the front of the property drinking all day, the garden is an absolute rubbish tip, (you get the idea...)
Yesterday he mentioned to me (as I was going to work!) that the council has cut his housing benefit by £15 per week and he did not know how he was going to manage (shame!)
He said he wants to look for a job but nothing pays anything like what he gets in benefits!!!!
I earn just over £200 week from my own business, (equals £4 per hour, below minimum wage) and I honesty wonder whether it is worth working anymore??? - my neighbor gets almost all of his rent paid in full, council tax paid, claims disability (for alcoholism?) so pound for pound he is far better off than me!
Is it just me or is anyone else fed up of working long hours with little in return? -
The thing that 'tops it all off' is that because the way he lives his life (ie a 'scroat)' and the state his 'free' property is in means that no one in their right mind would buy my home if I wanted to sell it! - therefore making it worthless, so I have worked all of these years for NOTHING!
Comments are welcome, regards Dave
I own and run a small shop and work around 50 hours a week, I am very lucky to own my own flat (outright) bought by hard work and saving since I was 16, - this is in complete contrast to my upstairs neighbor.
He is at least 20 years younger than me, the three years he has lived there he has never worked, the flat has broken windows, he sits outside the front of the property drinking all day, the garden is an absolute rubbish tip, (you get the idea...)
Yesterday he mentioned to me (as I was going to work!) that the council has cut his housing benefit by £15 per week and he did not know how he was going to manage (shame!)
He said he wants to look for a job but nothing pays anything like what he gets in benefits!!!!
I earn just over £200 week from my own business, (equals £4 per hour, below minimum wage) and I honesty wonder whether it is worth working anymore??? - my neighbor gets almost all of his rent paid in full, council tax paid, claims disability (for alcoholism?) so pound for pound he is far better off than me!
Is it just me or is anyone else fed up of working long hours with little in return? -
The thing that 'tops it all off' is that because the way he lives his life (ie a 'scroat)' and the state his 'free' property is in means that no one in their right mind would buy my home if I wanted to sell it! - therefore making it worthless, so I have worked all of these years for NOTHING!
Comments are welcome, regards Dave
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Fed up of working for very lit - 30-Mar-11 17:28
Pushpa .... now there's a good English name! Rarely have I seen so much ignorance, prejudice, arrogance, and stupidity in a single posting.
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Pushpa, who are you talking about? Only pensioners get winter fuel payments and Christmas bonus is just £10.
I suppose some people may be living as you describe but I doubt there are many. What are you basing this opinion on?
I suppose some people may be living as you describe but I doubt there are many. What are you basing this opinion on?
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This direct debit in bank for people on benefit is really a big fraud. People living abroad, they only come for couple of weeks in Britain, pay visit to the family doctor and move about few accounts to prove that they are living in Britain. They all have luxury villas and houses custom build by using our benefit system. Lots of people carry more than one nationality and different passports on which they travel. They are not travelling on British Passports and enjoying British Sterling being abroad in luxury. They also recieve winter fuel payments, Christmas bonus and all extras as well by being abroad in sunshire. Something should be done to stop this now.
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This idea would probably be abused by shady employers and lower ski11ed workers would be treated like s*** and expected to work overtime with the threat that they would be "replaced" by someone else.
Perhaps work experience etc or training more accessable for the unemployed would be a better idea. I've been unemployed myself and its NOT fun....
Perhaps work experience etc or training more accessable for the unemployed would be a better idea. I've been unemployed myself and its NOT fun....
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Yes, make people work for their luxury providing £130 a fortnight, then employers could sack all their current workforce and get free labour from the unemployed... great idea.
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If a person becomes unemployed then yes they should snatch the chance of any sort of work in my opinion, worked for me. And if you do look for bright and better things in the future then you have a CV with a work history on it. I think an employer would rather take someone on who is already working rather than someone who hasn't worked for months. Employers like that sort of thing don't they? I hated been on jsa and wanted a job, any job so I could get my life back on track so my opinion is yes if you are offered work take as it could be months before it's offered again.
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