Young people and alcohol
17-May-2008
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Another New Year has started and I have been reminded yet again how some young people these days seem incapable of having a few drinks without kicking off and starting trouble.  Youngsters and alcohol just don't mix.  Luckily this time the only damage was a broken nose (not mine) and a smashed car headlight, the later only discovered a couple of days after the event.

Young people and alcohol - a cider can

You can almost see the trouble taking shape before it happens.  I’ve been out with friends in the past in pubs and clubs and you can usually spot the trouble makers a mile off.  Fortunately, so too can most doormen, and the police are usually present in many town centres these days.

I called them youngsters earlier but I feel I must qualify that.  They’re usually young men between the ages of 16 and 20, although you do sometimes get a few of the older ones that can’t handle their drink either.  I think I’ve only seen a girl causing trouble on a couple of occasions, although I’m willing to bet that they’re the reason for many of the heated exchanges I’ve observed over the years.

I just can’t understand why there’s so much aggression around, although perhaps it’s all down to the fact that teenagers can get their hands on booze relatively easily these days.  If it’s not dodgy off licence that turns a blind eye, it’s the older brother or friend who buys it for them.  Personally, I didn’t get into that scene when I was that age - in fact I didn’t even go into a pub until I was eighteen.  That’s extremely rare these days I think.

The solution I think would be to raise the drinking age to 21 and come down hard on under age drinking, and when I say hard, I mean REALLY hard.  I’ve seen the police out in the town centres confiscating cans of cider and bottles of vodka, but often the kids get off with a verbal warning.  Maybe if the parents were fined then they would keep a closer eye on who they kids hung out with and what they got up to. 

That probably sounds a bit harsh, but the situation is out of control.  Why should the rest of us foot the bill for a few young idiots that don’t know when to stop?


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Mr Hitler hit the nail on the head. The scum attitudes of a large proportion of society is intolerable. It is sucking the life out of a once great nation. We truly have lost the sense of maturity and responsibility and it seems like there are too many who want to just get pissed and fight rather than go out and work hard for a decent, peaceful, quiet, NORMAL life.

The only thing I didn't agree with was raising the limit to 21. That means you could get married, join the forces and spend your wages on a lottery ticket for 5 years before you could have a beer.

What we need to do instead is shun drunken and aggressive behaviour as a society. Instead it is tolerated and glamourised by crap on the TV, everything from Eastenders, Hollyoaks, Shameless, et al.
*Jack Sparrow  26-Mar-2008 08:26

 
I'm not shocked by teenage binge drinking in the slightest. Not when you can buy about 3 litres of strong white cider for about £3.

Just the other day I saw a 10 year old at a bus stop with a can of Special Brew asking passerbys' for a 'quid.' Telling the to 'f off' as they naturally declined his request.

A boot camp would be a most welcome but this would face too many attacks by all the do-good water-walkers amongst us.
*Jonno  21-Feb-2008 09:17

 
Having been teetotal all of my life, I cannot see the appeal in either drinking or getting drunk.
For me, it's a waste of money and a devaluation of our body when drink is taken to extremes.
I have nothing against drink - don't get me wrong - there may even be argument that an occasional drink may be good for you, but I can certainly survive on the vast vast variety of 'soft' drinks that are available AND be in control of myself at all times!
*mark  20-Feb-2008 21:54

 
I tend to agree, it is mostly this chav element that is the problem and it most certainly stems from the parents. You see, the parents of these scummers were young when all the discipline was dropped in schools and have thus grown up with an attitude of getting away with everything. It's this whole scum of society that needs bringing to heel, how we do it God only knows. I think raising the alcohol age to 21 is a must, whether it will do anything is another matter.
*Mr Hilter  20-Feb-2008 17:08

 
In my eyes and alot of other peoples eyes it's mostly teenagers who 'take-on' a binge culture. I am 15 at the moment, I DO NOT, DO NOT go out every weekend to the park and get drunk enough to start a fight with someone and end up in hospital or a Police van, I dispise these people usually 'chavs' who exhibit this behaviour, I rarely drink alcohol, whenever I do, I drink in extreme moderation a glass of wine or two every couple of months or so, I am a generally healthy, 'buff' person who cares and looks after their body.
I'm not saying drinking is wrong becuase that would be hypocritical, I think drinking to get drunk is wrong. I hear about this when sat in lesson at school, people arranging their weekends (and they don't do it quietly) where they're going to get their 'booze' from and what and how much they are getting; "bottles of vodka for the girls and larger or cider for the lads."
I personally blame the parents of these brain dead 'chavs' they have no respect for authority even if they've had a drink or not. They need a really big kick up the you know where.
*Lee  19-Feb-2008 19:27

 
I'm 16, and to be honest I make my own alcohol which is totally legal under UK law, in fact it would have been legal to drink my own produce from the age of 5. but now that I'm not bad at it, it tastes quite good.

yes I think some people do get aggressive when drunk, and It is a shame and I think people need to regulate their intake more. but I don't think we should raise the drinking age to 21, because same thing will happen. I've never had a drink in a pub or brought from an off licence that turns a blind eye, though I know where I could get it. simple reason, it doesn't actually have that much appeal to me, because I make my own.

It has massive appeal to teenagers, I think because it makes them appear to be more grown up (I may be wrong but this is at least part of the attraction) but once they do it a fair few times they will learn not to have too much.
*daniel  01-Feb-2008 22:39

 
As an 18 year old I say alcohol is an amazing social tool.Sure we need to keep it out the hands of those little 12 year old chavs, but once thats all over and done with and we become stricter on ID its going to be more fun for everyone concerned
*FunyForAll  13-Jan-2008 20:05

 
I personally would advocate a return to the days when teenagers could sneak into a pub and have a few sly drinks and leave. At least this way they were drinking in a safer environment, and not drinking much for fear of being court. Now everyone drinks on the streets which puts them and others in danger, and is anti-social. I am 15 and know plenty of people my age who drink in parks and on the street, then get into fights, and do stupid things they regret. I know of two girls who have had their stomachs pumped.
*lizzie  04-Jan-2008 21:13

 
The problem is mostly women I'm afraid, tax on alcohol should be dramatically increased I think, might as well make some money off them and losen the grip on petrol tax (yeah right!)

Seriously though, this causes other problems, the police and paramedics have to "set up camp" in town centres and this means that they cannot be availible to attend real emergencies!

Not only that in 20-25 years when all this alcohol consumption starts to catch up with these people then the NHS will take a real beating, all paid for by the rest of us.

The Govt is right, they should peanalise smokers and drinkers when it comes to treating the illnesses they themselves have cause on the NHS.
*Billabong  04-Jan-2008 10:20

 
It's usually a woman that's the cause of the problems. Alcohol loosens the tongue, and that's when things get said.

I was at a party, and this girl of about 18 - 20 started bragging about the size of her boyfriends C**K, this started an argument with her boyfriend, who had had one to many shandy's.

Other boy's then started showing their sizes to her, an she didn't object, in fact she started simulated sex with them, that's when the first punch was thrown, and I don't mean the drink.

The girl, she pleaded she DIDN'T start it.
*Ricky  04-Jan-2008 04:15

 
I seem to see the women under 28 cause as much trouble as men in between 16-28 catogory.
*Steal  03-Jan-2008 16:44


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