What happened to bobbies on the beat?
12-May-2008
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I was a police cadet in the time that the cadet's got a wage of around £500 per annum.  It was a pittance in terms of pay and we were the lowest of the low.  After two years in the police force I graduated as a probationary Police Constable doubling my pay overnight.

What happened to bibbies on the beat?

At around this time bobbies were leaving the police force in droves, but then Edmund Davies bumped up the wage and we finally got the kind of salary that we where worth - what a pity they let the agreement slip!

Unfortunately technology hadn’t caught up with us and we worked points.  The men who drove cars all had radios, whilst those of us on the beat stood by phone boxes (these were called points) on the hour and for ten minutes there after.  I met my wife on a point so it wasn’t all that bad!

If they had a job for you they rang, if not you moved on to the next kiosk.  If you were unlucky enough to get a sticky job in between then you were on your own and would often have a few bruises to prove it!

We worked a seven shift night's week, followed by two rest days (and slept half way through the first one of them) followed by what was called an "I/C" week.  For the uninitiated that's 7 days of incoming paper work, of summonses, warrants, foreign force enquiries etc.

This was a great way to get to know who lived on your patch.  No radio, no body armour, no CS, no baton, no stun gun, only a short piece of hickory (known as a truncheon) and your whit's to defend you.  But the public respected us because we had earned their respect and could be called on at any time to step in as a police officer.  Everyone knew where the line was and what would happen if it was crossed it.

Today the police commute in, do a job and then commute out!  When was the last time you saw a bobby on the beat and do you know his or her name?


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The police have now arrested certain individuals in connection with the Rhys Jones case. We await trials, convictions, sentencing etc. These arrests were made some 8 months after the murder offence was committed. I wonder if this is the typical amount of time taken to pursue a murder investigation and make arrests? Interesting.

Following my post of 27 Dec 2007, I should, for what it's worth, congratulate the Liverpool police on this progress. If all goes to plan, this should be worthy of well earned respect.
*Sid  02-May-2008 21:31

 
They became Racing drivers with a no come back Gurantee and legal thugs to break up embarasing protests

Come back the Bobby who clipped my ear or took me back home for my dad to do it or to balance the one old Smiley had given me
And all without knowing what I had done he didn't need to know he trusted the coppers judgment as most parents did Because they had Earned RESPECT
*twiggy  06-Mar-2008 21:03

 
What happened to the Bobbie on the beat!???

They are all to busy counting the cash being screwed from motorists by fines from the ever increasing number of speed camera's, and other punative measures introduced since the present Government took power.

Anyone who owns a car (God forbid that they actually have the audacity to actually use it on the road) is now considered a bigger criminal than your "Friendly" neighbourhood drug dealer, Burgular, mugger, or terrorist.
Plus, it COSTS money to catch REAL criminals, persecuting the motorist is acutally a profitable, cost effective way of "cutting crime", without the physical risks.
*Alangh  26-Jan-2008 02:41

 
And if you have a burglar in your house and you use methods to subdue him/her, you're more likely to get nicked for assault! That's if the burglar is still there by the time the police arrive.

As for motorway patrols. If you don't see them on motorways near to you, tune into ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, Bravo or Zone Reality on Sky TV and relive the past with Police, Camera, Action. They're pretty old but remind you of how the police used to be on our roads, they'd even pull tailgaters over. Now it's all done with speed cameras, CCTV or ANPR controlled from miles away.

I wonder if the reason they don't make PCA anymore is because there aren't many patrol vehicles on the motorways anymore. How could ITV justify making a show using motorway patrol cameras when they're just pointing to the opposite side of the motorway with the police officer waiting in their vehicle on those raised areas next to the hard shoulder.
*Youthful Griper  17-Jan-2008 10:33

 
Sid, although I don't live in the area if it's anything like here then I can tell you what is going on.
People have no trust, faith or respect in the police or criminal justice system to do a good job. People are afraid that they will get found out for supplying the police with info.
They simply cannot be trusted to keep that info safe.
*Andy Evans  12-Jan-2008 10:23

 
Sid,

You are probably right - everyone knows who and where he is except for the police.

I sense he's being protected for whatever reason. He's obviously local what with riding around on a bike and, apparently, his name has been sprayed upon walls. What's going on?
*Mick  09-Jan-2008 11:37

 
The Government, past ones and present said, on the one hand, they were a good thing but also a relic of the past.

Might have worked when the pace of life was slower - wouldn't work now. In fact it would be a bit of a bad joke watching some lardy copper chasing after a gun toting juvenile on its BMX type bike!

Still haven't caught that nutter in Liverpool, wouldn't surprise me if everyone, except plod, know's who it is.
*Sid  27-Dec-2007 13:24

 
I always found British policemen a little too polite. Then again the NYPD have been taking flak lately because of their tempers. You're right about the "Bobby on the beat" issue. People respond better to law enforcement when they know their local police.
*Mr. Watchowtsky  25-Dec-2007 18:49

 
Hiya Troll Slayer thats really good news at last!!!
Why can't we have bloody more of them tho??
Here in the West Mids it's like a bloody ghost town where the cops are concerned.
The other day I came up the main A34 from Brum to Walsall & there they were-5 of them! all manning a drink drive campaign. Now whilst I agree this is a very worthwhile cause why cant they do it with half that number?
What a bloody waste of Manpower!!!
*Andy Evans  24-Dec-2007 14:08

 
Hi Andy

Bit behind the times now No Insurance is a Radio Call away, No Insurance on Database Vehicle impounded. The M25 has Number Plate reading cameras, as most Motorway Patrol cars have. They have been out in abundance this week. The same as the DVLA they drive round car parks now clamping for those without Tax.
Perhapswe will see some more on the news as like the GMTV presenter.
*Troll Slayer  23-Dec-2007 00:20

 
Pillockbasher please get your facts correct before you slag others off!
For starters I go to these places as part of my job-I work in Pest Control you Idiot!
*Andy Evans  19-Dec-2007 21:01

 
Andy Evans......It seems to me that you need to do a bit more work and stop sitting on your fat ar*e in McDonalds and KFC.

How can you criticise the Police for doing exactly what you are? Does your hand shake each week when you collect your wage packet. Hypocrite.
*Pillockbasher  18-Dec-2007 16:40


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