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Horse manure on the road is dangerous

As a biker I do not understand why horses are allowed on the road.  Horse riders are for ever complaining about vehicles not giving them room, yet they allow their animals to foul the road. 

All you can do is hope and pray...

Don't they realise that when other vehicles, which pay road tax to drive on the public highway, hit this crap it creates a major danger.  I ride to work 20 miles a day through country villages (the most direct route for me). One of these villages is the home of one of the country's major polo clubs, along the main road through the village there are many blind bends.  You are riding along at a safe speed when you lean into a bend and there it is in the middle of the road, worse than ice, where do you go?  All you can do is hope and pray.

Why is it in this day and age where people are fined £500 for letting their dogs foul the verges, is it that horses are allowed on the road?  Why don't they ride around with a shovel on the back of their saddle so that they can remove their own crap.

horse crap in the road On top of this, especially near these polo grounds or hunting sites you have the typical upper class country folk who ride along and look at you as if you were the person who should not be on the road.  Not so long back one of these stuck up bitches decided that a friends car, which had slowed down to overtake her horse passed to close and smacked it with her whip causing extensive damage.  Funny she hadn't any insurance and was not taking the blame and the Police don't accept it as criminal damage.

In conclusion, why is it that a horse which is not completely under the control of its rider, has a brain of its own, which does not have to pay any insurance or tax to go on the public highway, is allowed to leave its excrement on the road?

By: Duggy

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Dog poo carries diseases which are dangerous to humans; horse poo does not.

And, if you've got a garden it's wonderful stuff!

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grumpyoldwoman - 3-Oct-11 15:13 

i am sick and tired of horses pooing all over the roads and public footpaths. If my dog did this i can face a fine. Why should horses be treated any differently. Most riders don't give a damn for public decency or they wouldn't go into shops with their dirty boots on. I have just had to walk out of a local shop because 2 people were in there in jodphurs and boots full of muck, the stench was awful. if they like to live in xxxx let them but not make us live in it with them.

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peggy - 3-Oct-11 14:07 

No body pays road tax, it doesn't exist, the cost of road fund licence barely covers its own cost. I'm not a horsey person and agree that horse mess is an anti social problem but then so are loud exhaust pipes
Pedestrians, Cyclists and horse riders have the legal right to be on the road, motor vehicles dont!
(Spelling is bad due to dyslexia)

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Mr Muddy - 27-Jun-11 10:01 

Here's an idea.......buy a car and get off your scooter

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four_wheels_rule_ok - 26-May-11 15:02 

I wholeheartedly agree with the poster and although unpopular I also feel there's a distinction between those who pay hundreds of pounds just to drive on the road and others (horse riders, cyclists, etc) who don't yet can be the cause of accidents without any means of identification to be held accountable. Sometimes it's not possible to swerve to avoid a pile of manure ending in being squidged and said earlier and trailed on my driveway. A simple compromise I saw in what's not considered a 'first world' country was a sackcloth placed at the rear end of a horse that caught the manure. Presumably the owner is then able to sell the neatly bagged manure on. Why in our enlightened society can't riders adopt a similar idea?

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fed_up_of_poo_on_tyres. - 23-May-11 17:57 

You make a persuasive point Freddie. I agree with you in principle - except for the fact that we do not always know when our horse has deposited on the road, and if even if we did, we cannot stop, dismount, clear it away and remount. It is illegal to dismount on or near the highway, so all we can do is come back after the ride, by which time it has usually been squidged into the tarmac. I fully agree though that we should clear up after our horses on pavements (after all, we shouldn't really be riding on the pavement in the first place, although all of us have to sometimes out of safety) : )

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Nikki - 15-Apr-11 18:21 

Everyone has the right to use the road regardless of their tax payiong status. I cannot believe that people still think that paying road tax entitles them to preferential road use. What next? will it be that 4x4 owners claim more rights then saloon car owners, who in turn claim more rights than motorcyclists based purely on who pays the most road tax? It is utterly ridiculous!
Horses have every right to be on the road but I do think their owners should bear some responsibility for what is deposited on the road as a result. If a part falls off your car you are legally obliged to pick it up so why not a horse? It is an offence to deposit any substance on a road and horse owners should be held equally accountable as motorists in this respect. Whether it harms others or not is not the point.

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Freddie - 8-Apr-11 12:39 

horses have rights that nothing else does because for hundreds of years they done all the work and if bikers motorists had more respect for them perhaps they wouldnt drop so much when you pass them like idiots with contempt

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owen - 8-Apr-11 08:18 

I never went away Pizza-Mad Artist!! I have always been here, slogging away standing up for our 4 legged friends!!

thanx

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Nikki - 15-Mar-11 13:47 

Sorry being a pedant here "Don't they realise that when other vehicles, which pay road tax to drive on the public highway", they don't pay road tax, they pay vehicle excise duty which is a tax on owning not using a vehicle. The chances are these horse riders also own cars (high banded 4x4s) and so pay the same VED.
But I do completely agree with you regarding horse manure. Imagine you have an open face helmet you, its wet you drive throuh manure and you get hit in the face.

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Wolfshade - 15-Mar-11 12:13 

Omg nikki your still here on weekly gripe after years still commenting about horse manure :-)I missed seeing your delightful comments on this wonderful website :-)but now your back.Do you remember me ?!:-)anyway well said nikki and alfred you two obviously are streetwise I do wish you two could share your wiseness with the rest of the world.Kind regards to you two and your dear kin,pizza-mad artist XxXx :-D

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Pizza-Mad Artist - 13-Mar-11 10:22 

Excellent! Well said, Alf Red. It is all about commonsense. Motorbike riders in particular are very vulnerable, and it is therefore madness to belt around left hand bends in particular in the countryside assuming that the road is clear. You have no idea what lies around that bend, and for your OWN safety alone, you should proceed with caution.

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Nikki - 13-Feb-11 11:17 

The by-product of horses is...well...horse s**t. The by-products of cars are.....rubber on road surfaces, oil from leaking engines, water, carbon monoxide, soot, diesel particulates, hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide (maybe more). I still cannot bring myself to like horses, but I have to admit their pollution is less dangerous. I have had various motor bikes and lived in the country where you soon realise that you cannot ever assume that the road is safe. Round every corner could be horse s**t, water, mud, ice, livestock, tractors - each a hazard. A safe speed is the speed you can travel and safely stop if you come upon a hazard.

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Alf Red - 9-Feb-11 13:55 

Um, Boblet I really don't understand why that post was addressed to me??? Like has been said before on the issue of horse manure on the road - for the rider to immediately remove it would cause more of a hazard to other road users than the manure itself. Perhaps if campaigns were started and supported to get more off road riding then there would be less of a problem. There are lots of hazards on the roads unfortunately horse riders/owners are on the receiving end because of the ridiculous stereotypes that exist.

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Meg - 1-Feb-11 22:11 

Yeah right, Boblet, and my ****** a bloater!!

The clue must lie in your final sentence!

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Nikki - 30-Jan-11 21:28 

It is true Nikki, I am not sure how I can convince you, maybe now that I have started to gripe you will get to know me better. "Always truthfull but prone windup folk up a bit"

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Boblet - 29-Jan-11 21:52 

Alf Garnett:

Not sure that a horse, weighing around half a ton, is going to be phased one little bit by a piece of human excrement.

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Nikki - 29-Jan-11 17:42 

Still don't buy it Boblet. There are several holes in your story.

Need to do even better I'm afraid !!

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Nikki - 29-Jan-11 17:40 

Only a bit if fun Nikki, This is a true tale though. Late one evening we were on the M6 returning home from a show when my daughter needed to go to the toilet. She went through to the horses & did what she had to do in an Asda bag as we continued our journey. On her return to the cab I asked her what she had done with the bag so that when I was mucking out the box the next day I could remove it, she said don't worry Dad I've shoved it through a stall window, I will leave the rest to your imagination.

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Boblet - 29-Jan-11 00:30 

If I ever see a horse poo in the road I follow it to its stable then watch it till it goes out for a walk in the field then I sneak into its stable then poo on the floor, see how they bloody like it.

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Alf Garnett - 28-Jan-11 23:36 

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