The immigrant hierarchy in the UK
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The immigration policies in the UK need to be stricter, if only to give the immigrants here a better reputation! I am a Caucasian, blue eyed, English-as-a-first-language immigrant to England – married to a British man. I am well educated with two university degrees, bilingual, never been on benefits, and have worked since I immigrated here (making a decent wage, paying taxes, and contributing to a pension). I had a by-the-books ordeal in moving here. However when my husband mentions his wife is foreign, everyone makes assumptions like I'm a Thai bride, I am on benefits, I'm a refugee, or I can't speak English. When they do finally meet me, I always get comments like "Oh, American! That's not a proper immigrant!" I am, in fact, Canadian but no one seems to understand the difference – it's a Commonwealth country for goodness sake! |
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I'm always told I'm not a real immigrant and then someone goes into a rant about the immigration system and how they shouldn't let anyone in. I left my family, country, and entire life to come here and I'm not really an immigrant? How strange. People will compliment my accent one minute, then rant how they can't understand the foreigners in this country and they should learn English. Everyone wants immigrants to conform to UK customs, but I am constantly asked to bring Canadian products, clothes, and food to people – someone even asked if I was having Thanksgiving this year. "No, I am not", I said, "Its not a British tradition!" Then there followed a protest about how I should keep my culture, even though I live here in the UK. |
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Is there such a twisted double standard that people don't even notice they are conforming to it? What if I were from a country other than Canada? Would people still stare at me in public when I speak? Would everyone still ask me if I miss 'home' and say they'd love to go there? There seems to be a hierarchy among immigrants; a level of acceptance that is granted to me and not others. It reminds me of something about cake and eating it too. By: Steph |
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I'm Polish (oh, my God!) and I've heard comments like: oh, that's ok, you, Polish people are hardworking, unlike the other immigrants, who come over here and live on benefits. I guess it must be the famous English hypocrisy
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Smithy said of Mike P's anti immigrant diatribe that it was a from a hoax email,
"I suppose people are either very gullible or will choose to believe something which is patently ridiculous if it upholds their prejudices."
Not only was he gullible and showing his prejudices but he also lifted the whole hoax email word for word and presented as his own without quotation marks.
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"I suppose people are either very gullible or will choose to believe something which is patently ridiculous if it upholds their prejudices."
Not only was he gullible and showing his prejudices but he also lifted the whole hoax email word for word and presented as his own without quotation marks.
Check out this site
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/canadian-pension-refugees.shtml
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Arrived in Bradistan not a bad trip, only cut up once by a bandit merging with the M62, just before the M6. What sort of country have we become when we allow people to drive with a full face mask. It was impossible for He/She to see me, I was forced to blow my horrn to avoid a collision, Believe me I am getting fed up with it.
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1) Who gives a toss?
2) What has this to do with immigrants? Can't you even post in the right place?
2) What has this to do with immigrants? Can't you even post in the right place?
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I am about to undertake a Journey to deepest Bradistan, east on the M62, I must be a blinking mad, I have no doubt I will be passed by Tesco drivers, & an abundance of german fliers, Thumbs up for Eddie Stobart drivers,
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All very entertaining. MikeP has made it clear in his numerous contributions to the Weekly Gripe that he is not a native of the UK, what place does he take in the immigrant hierarchy I wonder.
Worry not my fellow English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish countrymen and women, ignore the outsiders and carry on as usual.
Worry not my fellow English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish countrymen and women, ignore the outsiders and carry on as usual.
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These figures are derived from a mixture of hoax emails that are passed around and a misunderstanding regarding one off settlement payments being confused with ongoing regular ones.
I suppose people are either very gullible or will choose to believe something which is patently ridiculous if it upholds their prejudices.
I suppose people are either very gullible or will choose to believe something which is patently ridiculous if it upholds their prejudices.
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It seems that the same nonsense is taking place in that other hotbed of political correctness, Canada.
* It is interesting to know that the federal Government of Canada allows :
A monthly pension of : $1,890.00 to a simple refugee
plus : 580.00 in social aid
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A grand total of : $2,470.00 monthly
X 12 months
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$28,920.00 annual income
· By comparison, the Old Age Pension of a senior citizen who has contributed to the development of Our Beautiful Big Country during 40 or 50 years, CANNOT receive more than :
Amount/month $1,012.00 in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement
X 12 months
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$12,144.00 annual income
A difference of : $16,776.00 per year
* Perhaps our senior citizens should ask for the Status of Refugees instead of applying for Old Age Pension.
* Let us send this message to as many Canadians as possible, and maybe the allowance of refugee could then be reduced to $1,012.00, and that of our Canadian pensioners raised to $2,470.00 per month. (who actually deserve it) the money that they have been paying in income taxes for 40 or 50 years,
AN INCREDIBLE NONSENSE !!!
OUR CANADIAN SENIORS CITIZENS, DESERVE BETTER
Please circulate this text to see the reaction of your contacts !
* It is interesting to know that the federal Government of Canada allows :
A monthly pension of : $1,890.00 to a simple refugee
plus : 580.00 in social aid
==========
A grand total of : $2,470.00 monthly
X 12 months
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$28,920.00 annual income
· By comparison, the Old Age Pension of a senior citizen who has contributed to the development of Our Beautiful Big Country during 40 or 50 years, CANNOT receive more than :
Amount/month $1,012.00 in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement
X 12 months
============
$12,144.00 annual income
A difference of : $16,776.00 per year
* Perhaps our senior citizens should ask for the Status of Refugees instead of applying for Old Age Pension.
* Let us send this message to as many Canadians as possible, and maybe the allowance of refugee could then be reduced to $1,012.00, and that of our Canadian pensioners raised to $2,470.00 per month. (who actually deserve it) the money that they have been paying in income taxes for 40 or 50 years,
AN INCREDIBLE NONSENSE !!!
OUR CANADIAN SENIORS CITIZENS, DESERVE BETTER
Please circulate this text to see the reaction of your contacts !
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Mike P, please provide some proof of these assertions. Thank you
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It would be sad if it were true. Could you provide some links to where you got this information?
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Where did Britain go wrong ?
We're "broke" and can't help our own seniors, veterans, orphans, homeless etc.
Are you aware of the following?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -
British old age pensioner : Weekly allowance £100
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers :Weekly allowance £250
British old age pensioner : Weekly Spouse allowance £25
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers :Weekly Spouse allowance £225
British old age pensioner : Additional weekly hardship allowance £0;00
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers : Additional weekly hardship allowance £100
British old age pensioner : Total yearly benefit : £6,000
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers : £29,900
Difference : £23,900 per annum – more than many people earn.
The average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years. The illegal immigrants and 'asylum seekers' have contributed what?
Sad isn't it?
We're "broke" and can't help our own seniors, veterans, orphans, homeless etc.
Are you aware of the following?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -
British old age pensioner : Weekly allowance £100
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers :Weekly allowance £250
British old age pensioner : Weekly Spouse allowance £25
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers :Weekly Spouse allowance £225
British old age pensioner : Additional weekly hardship allowance £0;00
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers : Additional weekly hardship allowance £100
British old age pensioner : Total yearly benefit : £6,000
Illegal immigrants/refugees/bogus asylum seekers : £29,900
Difference : £23,900 per annum – more than many people earn.
The average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years. The illegal immigrants and 'asylum seekers' have contributed what?
Sad isn't it?
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Payback. Take a good look at the history of the Britsh Isles. Our culture has been formed on the back of colonisation by Vikings, Romans, Normans, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Danes etc. Our shores were even raided by Turkish ships looking for slaves. Some of the most important parts of our culture came from these raiders. Are we complaining - No! Where would these islands be now if we hadn't been invaded at various times over the centuries. Colonisation has always happened, right across the world and for centuries.
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Payback. I agree that the under developed countries were ripped of by us the Germans, French, Dutch, Portugese, etc, but they were given basic knowhow by our hands on engineers & nurses. Unfortunatly they seem to ignore this basic knowledge, judging from the begging adverts of starving & poisoned children. As for who ripped them of it was not the working class of any of these countries. I think Royalty may have been invoved and the Church with a smattering of the aristocracy in charge of the Army, So I would ask the aristocracy the church and the royal families of the world to give a few bob back, after all they are still wallowing in the spoils
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Ok if you insist!!!....in all your films, books ,T-shirts... the only thing that you expose is the "good" that the so called civilised Great England has done for other countries or the "bad" that OTHER countries have done to them... but never the reeeeeaaaaaaaaal damage as to what England has done to these countries in the past....hence we forget the great massacre...it probably doesn't even ring a bell...hmmm you brits!!! I forgive ya!!! But these things have consequences...It cannot be blown over in a decade nor a century ...it just wont...it stays my dear friends and it wont go away anytime soon...also its not your, England's or the Queens decision to make as to colonise a country or not..but thats just what you do and to be honest with you , you did it quite well...For God and the queens sake its like going into someones house and telling them how to bring up their children..."I say lets stop these barbarians from eating fresh veg and let them adopt a more civilised approach of eating eggs,beans,fried pototato chips, toast ,those green thingy stuff and a good old cup of earl grey to wash down the english breakfast!!!!! to say the least.... Stop complaining and be a proper Englishman I say....Like I said I'm glad immigrants are making the UK their home, and rightfully so....you did it so why can't we...Oh about my spelling and grammar...i can bet you my english is better than your spelling of any I mean any other foreign language from any 3 world country...
but I guess spelling and grammar is the only way to be taken seriously in great England...oh sorry I meant in Great Britian...if someone is starving they first need to spell the words out correctly before someone helps them....isn't that right so old chap!!
but I guess spelling and grammar is the only way to be taken seriously in great England...oh sorry I meant in Great Britian...if someone is starving they first need to spell the words out correctly before someone helps them....isn't that right so old chap!!
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I rather think, 'payback', that if you look at the countries in Africa which were previously colonies and which have now reverted to barbarism, sorry, independence, you will see, even if you won't accept, that they were better off as colonies.
Try using some grammar in your postings and people might take you a little more seriously, it's a little hard to decipher your meaning, if indeed there is any.
Try using some grammar in your postings and people might take you a little more seriously, it's a little hard to decipher your meaning, if indeed there is any.
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Payback - so where do you live then? If it is in the UK then you are benefitting from colonisation as well. None of us alive now were actually alive when the Empire was active you know.
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Payback is a b eeeee aaaaaccccchh aint it mate... The things is....you brits stole from every country you can think of for yeeeeeeaaaaars...calling your stealing "colonising a country" but did you bother to decolonize those countries and give back what you "stole"...i think not!!!!... you brits are now living on the benefits from others india,south africa,australia etc etc etc etc and the list goes on I think thats your problem your sin and your curse...you stole and then you get back what you deserve...stop complaining this is a curse you put on yourselves your souls and heads
i'm just glad you can feel the payback!!!
i'm just glad you can feel the payback!!!
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The problem with a lot of immigrants is their actual culture. It allows for different morals they do not realise what they are doing, telling lies to them is normal, to rip the NHS off normal, show no curtisy normal, have questionable hygine normal. Produce large families that starve normal. give their children poisened water, normal, Look at the TV adverts asking us for money showing pictures of starving children, or telling Nigel Mansel not to be British but question the price. It shows you their normal . They come here with these values. Stand firm Brits. Our Government is bad but theirs is corrupt.
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I am a white British person living in Japan. My experiences are much the same as yours, except I have to renew my visa every year.
One minute people are expecting me to conform to Japanese ways while they in return treat me like a strange wild animal escaped from a zoo, the next they are asking me to speak English rather than Japanese and when am I going back to my country?
There are constant exaggerated complaints in the media about 'foreign criminals'. Strangers wake me up on the bus to try to get me to help them practise English conversation.
In comparison, my British-asian friend is largely ignored because he doesn't 'look foreign'.
I still like it better here than in Britain. The weather, the food, the low crime rate (probably because of the fewer immigrants ha ha), the manners (usually).
People are the same the world over. They like novelty that they perceive as being to their benefit but resent strange things that might inconvenience them.
One minute people are expecting me to conform to Japanese ways while they in return treat me like a strange wild animal escaped from a zoo, the next they are asking me to speak English rather than Japanese and when am I going back to my country?
There are constant exaggerated complaints in the media about 'foreign criminals'. Strangers wake me up on the bus to try to get me to help them practise English conversation.
In comparison, my British-asian friend is largely ignored because he doesn't 'look foreign'.
I still like it better here than in Britain. The weather, the food, the low crime rate (probably because of the fewer immigrants ha ha), the manners (usually).
People are the same the world over. They like novelty that they perceive as being to their benefit but resent strange things that might inconvenience them.
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Report the bast@ard! What an evil scam that is! I want to know his name and location right now! I'll have him investigated and his mailing record exposed.
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