Elderly people assume teenagers are yobs
02-September-2010
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What is really very annoying is the self-righteous and sometimes pitying nature of some of this elderly people in society, particularly towards teenagers and youngsters.

Elderly people assume teenagers are yobs

After school, I get a public bus home which normally takes an hour; it's usually quite crowded so I often find myself standing up for most of the journey.  I get the bus alone so I usually just listen to my iPod.  However I am frequently greeted with frowns and angry faces by the elderly people on the bus.

I'm always polite to elderly people and often let them go past me and sit down.  I remember my manners, but they always seem to have the attitude of 'Teenager, she must be a yob, want to steal from me or be rude'.  This is something I would never do and it’s actually quite upsetting some of the comments I hear.

Earlier this year I was in a car accident.  I was in the front seat and I don't want to go into long details, but my leg was partially crushed and my bones shattered.  I now walk with a limp even though I'm fourteen and standing for long periods of time (even just ten minutes) is actually quite painful.  The bones have not healed and recently I have got an infection from one of the leg wounds which makes it almost impossible to walk or even stand properly.

Whenever I can get a seat on the bus I always sit down, I feel awful sometimes leaving an elderly man or something to stand, but I have my own disability too.  Just because I am a teenager, that doesn't mean that I don't feel pain in the same way that someone their age can.  I quite often get berated for sitting down and on one occasion even grabbed on the shoulder by one of the elderly folk with a 'No respect' or 'How horrible and disobedient to leave someone else standing when you're fine'.

I always try and explain that I have my own disability, but often I am told that I'm just a yob and I must be lying.  There was me thinking that a yob was someone who broke windows, stole cars, mugged people and was generally a nuisance.  Apparently a schoolgirl in pain who simply wants to rest her foot is now a yob too!

If there was someone in terrible pain or more in need than myself then I would definitely offer up the seat, but please don’t discriminate purely on the basis of how old someone looks.

By: Annaliese


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Yes, we are in agreement in many ways. If you look though you will see that the media will demonise other groups as well; they have no sense of responsibility and will do whatever it takes to sell a story and make money.

Newspapers have always preyed on people's fears to whip up suspicion and hatred and they probably always will. Most older people that I know have grandchildren and know that most kids are not troublemakers or criminals.

My point was that the people in charge of the media and most companies are not that old!

Don't fall into the same trap. Don't judge all elders the same just because a few have been nasty to you.

If you feel strongly about this why not consider a career in journalism and try to be a decent honest reporter ( there have to be some!) who tries to be fair to all groups?

"Happy slapping" is already illegal. It is assault. The truth is that most victims of these attacks are themselves young but that tends not to be reported much. It's been nice talking to you DSG, try not to let them get you down.
*Sally  16-Aug-2010 19:05

 
All of us teenagers are constantly stereotyped by the media every day,and being labelled hoodies,yobs,louts,scum.I have only seen ONE good story about hoodies,and that's where 3 of them save a pensioner from dying.The rest are just people moaning at how society has degraded since the last millenium,and how teenagers should respect their elders.There are also accounts of happpy slapping[which I think should be banned],"yobs"kicking innocent boys heads in,and one even showed two "hoodies" beating a two year old deer to death.The media demonises all teenagers so their sales can rocket,and you know that.They just want to publish us in a bad light,without getting our side of the story,you know?
*DSG  16-Aug-2010 18:52

 
I know what you mean and no one likes to be labelled or stereotyped but you are doing the same thing yourself.

It is very unlikely that the manager of Bluewater shopping centre or the editors of newspapers that print the articles that annoy you are OAPs! Most jobs at that level do go to people who are middle aged but not elderly.

You are picking an easy and vulnerable target for your anger - just like they do.
*Sally  16-Aug-2010 18:52

 
I know that,but I am tired of being labelled a yob by the media![and other people]
*DSG  16-Aug-2010 18:39

 
DSG

Most older people don't have a grudge against young people. You are falling into the same way of thinking that you accuse older people of.

Just because some elders think that way doesn't mean that they all do.
*Sally  16-Aug-2010 18:32

 
Who do most OAPs hold a grudge against us?
We haven't done anything wrong,like mug an old lady,or kick the crutches right out of an old man with a disabilty,and most of us teenagers have certainly not joined in the sick sport of happy slapping.Maybe they're jealous of our good looks?
*DSG  16-Aug-2010 18:28

 
Annaliese have just read your gripe, I feel very sorry for you, your accident sounded horrendous and yes, you must continue sitting on the bus when you can, you are as important as all the other older people and you should continue to explain your predicament (if you have to!). Sounds a bit victimising to me.
*MerseysideAlice  18-Jun-2010 23:05

 
I agree with Splodge. I am a gentle man of 69 and I have experienced bad manners from both the elderly and the young. Too many folk are in too much of a hurry to take in the nuances of life but I have found that, when a young person takes the time to speak respectfully to me I have responded with the same and have really enjoyed the experience. Quite often they are appreciative of the knowledge they have gained and we part very good friends. If we just stop for a second and think about the situation, life would be much more pleasant. When I describe my work and life skills, I often get the reaction ' I didn't know that, Thank you' . and I am very happy to have contributed a little . I am sure 'Splodge' and I could have a wonderful conversation.
*Copper 3T  10-Apr-2010 14:25

 
What you all seem to forget is that first impressions mean alot.

Take for example, if you were to meet a girl in a night club etc, and she was acting all sketty and you thought "god shes ugly / dirty / smelly"... no matter how sweet that lass is, you would always see her as that horrid thing....

So the elderly who have had one bad experiance with all these Chavs on our streets these days do not make a good name the younger generation - therefore it is US, The "youngsters" who are tarnishing ourselves with the yob brush.

Have you ever sat with an elderly person and talked to them about how they feel about younger people?

I think you will learn alot.

oh and im not an elderly myself, im 23...
*Splodge  09-Feb-2010 12:33

 
What you all seem to forget is that first impressions mean alot.

Take for example, if you were to meet a girl in a night club etc, and she was acting all sketty and you thought "god shes ugly / dirty / smelly"... no matter how sweet that lass is, you would always see her as that horrid thing....

So the elderly who have had one bad experiance with all these Chavs on our streets these days do not make a good name the younger generation - therefore it is US, The "youngsters" who are tarnishing ourselves with the yob brush.

Have you ever sat with an elderly person and talked to them about how they feel about younger people?

I think you will learn alot.

oh and im not an elderly myself, im 23...
*Splodge  09-Feb-2010 11:41

 
I have had similar experiences to Annaliese, and I can assure you - sometimes smiling makes no difference at all. Some old people are just cruel. Some aren't, but some are, and it's the one's that are who have (because they demand it) the highest public profile. Cruel people can be any age - but those that are elderly do seem to make themselves known to others more as the nasty pieces of work that they are...
*Nichola  27-Jan-2010 01:02

 
If you only look out for bad things that is all you will see and get , try looking for the positive you will be surprised at what you see and get, There is an old saying that you reap what you sow and if you walk roung with an angry face then it rubs off try smiling it works wonders,
(recovering pessamist)
*GM  14-Jan-2010 09:25


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