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Elderly people assume teenagers are yobs

What is really very annoying is the self-righteous and sometimes pitying nature of some of this elderly people in society, particularly towards teenagers and youngsters.

After school, I get a public bus home which normally takes an hour; it's usually quite crowded so I often find myself standing up for most of the journey.  I get the bus alone so I usually just listen to my iPod.  However I am frequently greeted with frowns and angry faces by the elderly people on the bus.

I'm always polite to elderly people and often let them go past me and sit down.  I remember my manners, but they always seem to have the attitude of 'Teenager, she must be a yob, want to steal from me or be rude'.  This is something I would never do and its actually quite upsetting some of the comments I hear.

Earlier this year I was in a car accident.  I was in the front seat and I don't want to go into long details, but my leg was partially crushed and my bones shattered.  I now walk with a limp even though I'm fourteen and standing for long periods of time (even just ten minutes) is actually quite painful.  The bones have not healed and recently I have got an infection from one of the leg wounds which makes it almost impossible to walk or even stand properly.

Elderly people assume teenagers are yobs Whenever I can get a seat on the bus I always sit down, I feel awful sometimes leaving an elderly man or something to stand, but I have my own disability too.  Just because I am a teenager, that doesn't mean that I don't feel pain in the same way that someone their age can.  I quite often get berated for sitting down and on one occasion even grabbed on the shoulder by one of the elderly folk with a 'No respect' or 'How horrible and disobedient to leave someone else standing when you're fine'.

I always try and explain that I have my own disability, but often I am told that I'm just a yob and I must be lying.  There was me thinking that a yob was someone who broke windows, stole cars, mugged people and was generally a nuisance.  Apparently a schoolgirl in pain who simply wants to rest her foot is now a yob too!

If there was someone in terrible pain or more in need than myself then I would definitely offer up the seat, but please dont discriminate purely on the basis of how old someone looks.

By: Annaliese

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Me again, my iPod broke a couple of months ago and I can't be bothered to get a new one. I'm still getting glared at and when I asked I was told to mind my own business.

All I do on my bus routine is sit at the bus stop minding my own business, get on the bus, sit down quietly, spend the entire bus trip silent, get off and go to college or work. I don't do anything to upset anyone, I wear what I'd consider respectable clothes (Unlike some people I see sporting their lonsdale trackies and reebok trainers when they aren't exercising) so I don't understand why people seem to hate me so much.

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Connor - 11-Jul-11 10:12 

That's a fact: elderly people assume teenagers are yobs because when they were teenagers they were yobs too.

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The Merry go Round - 5-Mar-11 15:40 

No I mean it's quite, I have the volume locked to about a third to half the way, and I don't have it that loud anyway, I can hear everything they say even when I have music on. Recently I have been having hearing problems, mainly because of ear infections, so I don't like having on loud at all just to be extra careful. It seems to me like they're trying to make me say something so they can have another thing to talk about on their bus trips.

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Connor - 21-Feb-11 19:42 

Connor - sorry to be persistent and I will let it go after this but a lot of people have no idea how loud their music is , even with headphones in. It "leaks" out and is very irritating.

The RNID are expecting that the current crop of youngster will have far worse hearing that the current oldsters because of the damage done by having loud music constantly thudding in their ears.

If that isn't the case then I can't see why people would glare at you for no reason, can you? It does not seem all that likely. You could try asking politely if you have done something to offend them!

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Carrot - 21-Feb-11 19:30 

Nope, earplugs in, sat on my own, but they glare at me. I can hear them talking about me sometimes, but I know if I was to say something about it I'd get kicked off the bus instead of them.

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Connor - 21-Feb-11 19:21 

Connor - when you say you only play music at low volume in public, do you mean without headphones?

I have noticed that now music can be played on mobile phones many young people no longer even bother using headphones. It's very anti-social and rude.

I am relatively young but I have never found older people glare at me in public - why would they? If you are being glared at then you are probably doing something to irritate people.

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Carrot - 21-Feb-11 18:02 

Petra, I listen to my music at a very low volume, but I still get glared at. I even get glared at when I'm not even listening to music, but sitting waiting for my stop.

People jump to conclusions wayyy to quickly, even the old and oh-so wise elderly people.

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Connor - 21-Feb-11 14:07 

For those of you youngsters , or not so young, who complain that people glare at you on the bus or train when you are using your I pod, the answer is simple.

They are glaring because it is too loud and the noise is leaking out. It is a very irritating sound in an already stressful world.

Turn it down please. If it is that loud you are actually causing damage to your hearing and will go deaf long before you are old.

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Petra - 26-Jan-11 13:25 

teenagers are not 'yobs' some may be but others are just growing up. old people need to tell the difference between a yob and someone growing up.

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teen - 6-Jan-11 11:26 

I am writing a speech on stereotyping teenagers and one of my points is the elderly and how they are rude to us teenagers I have found that your report has helped a lot, thank you.

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ej1997 - 15-Nov-10 19:29 

Teenagers in this economy are taking what they have for granted only because they don't understand how to help change the economy or affect the change for the good. it is only some teenagers that are bad apples, there are good teenagers as well as bad. They have just been given a bad reputation by the bad. We have to learn how to help and we have to be influenced to change the way we are, unfortunately we have chosen the wrong influence.

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djh80 - 20-Oct-10 14:34 

Yes, we are in agreement in many ways. If you look though you will see that the media will demonise other groups as well; they have no sense of responsibility and will do whatever it takes to sell a story and make money.

Newspapers have always preyed on people's fears to whip up suspicion and hatred and they probably always will. Most older people that I know have grandchildren and know that most kids are not troublemakers or criminals.

My point was that the people in charge of the media and most companies are not that old!

Don't fall into the same trap. Don't judge all elders the same just because a few have been nasty to you.

If you feel strongly about this why not consider a career in journalism and try to be a decent honest reporter ( there have to be some!) who tries to be fair to all groups?

"Happy slapping" is already illegal. It is assault. The truth is that most victims of these attacks are themselves young but that tends not to be reported much. It's been nice talking to you DSG, try not to let them get you down.

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Sally - 16-Aug-10 19:05 

All of us teenagers are constantly stereotyped by the media every day,and being labelled hoodies,yobs,louts,scum.I have only seen ONE good story about hoodies,and that's where 3 of them save a pensioner from dying.The rest are just people moaning at how society has degraded since the last millenium,and how teenagers should respect their elders.There are also accounts of happpy slapping[which I think should be banned],"yobs"kicking innocent boys heads in,and one even showed two "hoodies" beating a two year old deer to death.The media demonises all teenagers so their sales can rocket,and you know that.They just want to publish us in a bad light,without getting our side of the story,you know?

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DSG - 16-Aug-10 18:52 

I know what you mean and no one likes to be labelled or stereotyped but you are doing the same thing yourself.

It is very unlikely that the manager of Bluewater shopping centre or the editors of newspapers that print the articles that annoy you are OAPs! Most jobs at that level do go to people who are middle aged but not elderly.

You are picking an easy and vulnerable target for your anger - just like they do.

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Sally - 16-Aug-10 18:52 

I know that,but I am tired of being labelled a yob by the media![and other people]

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DSG - 16-Aug-10 18:39 

DSG

Most older people don't have a grudge against young people. You are falling into the same way of thinking that you accuse older people of.

Just because some elders think that way doesn't mean that they all do.

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Sally - 16-Aug-10 18:32 

Who do most OAPs hold a grudge against us?
We haven't done anything wrong,like mug an old lady,or kick the crutches right out of an old man with a disabilty,and most of us teenagers have certainly not joined in the sick sport of happy slapping.Maybe they're jealous of our good looks?

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DSG - 16-Aug-10 18:28 

Annaliese have just read your gripe, I feel very sorry for you, your accident sounded horrendous and yes, you must continue sitting on the bus when you can, you are as important as all the other older people and you should continue to explain your predicament (if you have to!). Sounds a bit victimising to me.

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MerseysideAlice - 18-Jun-10 23:05 

I agree with Splodge. I am a gentle man of 69 and I have experienced bad manners from both the elderly and the young. Too many folk are in too much of a hurry to take in the nuances of life but I have found that, when a young person takes the time to speak respectfully to me I have responded with the same and have really enjoyed the experience. Quite often they are appreciative of the knowledge they have gained and we part very good friends. If we just stop for a second and think about the situation, life would be much more pleasant. When I describe my work and life skills, I often get the reaction ' I didn't know that, Thank you' . and I am very happy to have contributed a little . I am sure 'Splodge' and I could have a wonderful conversation.

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Copper 3T - 10-Apr-10 14:25 

What you all seem to forget is that first impressions mean alot.

Take for example, if you were to meet a girl in a night club etc, and she was acting all sketty and you thought "god shes ugly / dirty / smelly"... no matter how sweet that lass is, you would always see her as that horrid thing....

So the elderly who have had one bad experiance with all these Chavs on our streets these days do not make a good name the younger generation - therefore it is US, The "youngsters" who are tarnishing ourselves with the yob brush.

Have you ever sat with an elderly person and talked to them about how they feel about younger people?

I think you will learn alot.

oh and im not an elderly myself, im 23...

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Splodge - 9-Feb-10 12:33 

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