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Dress code in bars and clubs too strict

In this country our bars and clubs rip us off left right and centre with the cost of drinks or admission fees.  To add insult to injury many of these places are now starting to insist on a dress code before you can even get through the door.  If you're going out clubbing you need to think carefully about what you wear or find yourself refused entrance.

In the town where I live we have two weekend late-night drinking establishments. The one most people prefer to frequent is a modern, bright, fairly expensive wine bar with a resident DJ. On a Saturday night people looking for somewhere to continue enjoying their night out start queuing at 10.30 in order to ensure that they gain entrance.

This establishment however, has a rather strict dress code, jeans and trainers not being considered suitable attire.
Several times I have queued up with friends only to have the slightly stroppy bouncer deny entry to some of them for the sin of wearing, shock horror, JEANS and TRAINERS!

'Denim is denim - whatever the colour'

dress code in clubs And there is no reprieve for white jeans, chinos or whatever you like to call them (denim is denim whatever the colour or label) or any trainers that resemble "normal shoes" but are in fact not as they are made of fabric not shiny leather or leather effect plastic.

So what makes this form of dress offensive? I take it that it isnt because the wearer is deemed to poor to drink in the establishment as he can only afford jeans and trainers to wear because everyone knows that a decent pair of jeans and trainers costs quite a lot of money.  Maybe the management assume that the wearing of these items turns the normally mild mannered person into a beer swilling trouble maker who has nothing better to do than start a fight and wreck the establishment.  Most of my friends spend all week working in offices dressed in "proper" trousers and shoes and prefer to spend their weekends in less formal clothes, maybe it is time that bars and nightclubs stopped being so snobby about dress code.

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You whole lot seem rather disturbed. The overly-intense fascination with wearing a tie with one's top collar button undone is unseemly, just wear the damn tie properly or not at all, eh? I can see the point of the malcontents wishing to put this conversation to an end! time to put this thread to rest, right? Go have a pint. Without wearing a tie, tight or loose, for God's sake!

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wandering critic - 1-Nov-11 01:52 

Not at Alton Towers. He's at Thorpe Park today.

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How loose - 30-Oct-11 19:48 

Maybe he is in one of the long queues at Alton Towers, hang on a minute I`ll take my tie off and wave it around........................there`s someone waving back......is it Him?

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Mr Twerpot - 30-Oct-11 16:33 

'Tis OK Bobby. I'll wait for Adapting to respond.

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How loose - 30-Oct-11 12:40 

Adapting might be busy. so tie tie tie tie tie tie tie I will send you a few shirts later you boring twerp.

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Boblet - 30-Oct-11 12:27 

Adapting: you owe me a post... says me, ignoring the riff-raff. haha

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How loose - 30-Oct-11 08:23 

Adapting - 28-Oct-11 22:59
"...some might say it takes one to know one.."

What a pointless, meaningless, inane, shallow statement. If you have nothing to contribute, may I suggest you do just that.

Shouldn't you be doing your homework?

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MikeP - 29-Oct-11 09:23 

"narcissistic" - Mike P
"stupid battymen" - Rasta Mouse
"shirt lifters" - Boblet
...some might say it takes one to know one...
so how do yours' hang'? :)

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Adapting - 28-Oct-11 22:59 

Stupid battymen chatting shite, i suggest they both do their tie up really tight, tie it to a high branch of a tree then jump.

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Rasta Mouse - 28-Oct-11 10:12 

Dan, I have tried to make sense of it to, as far as I can tell it is about how loose their @rseholes are, spying rings & adapting shirt lifters, but I may be wrong.

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Boblet - 27-Oct-11 15:39 

How many ways are there to say that you like to loosen your tie?

Wasn't this thread meant to be about strict or snobby dress codes in clubs or bars rather than wearing your tie loosened?

Personally, I would prefer to see someone in clean jeans and trainers than a scruffy and malodorous old suit.

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Silver Dan - 27-Oct-11 15:19 

I have now read many of the posts on this gripe and can report that they are most probably some sort of spy ring reporting back to their masters, how else can the inane garbage be explained.
It could of course be a sub-species of humanity speaking another language; teenagers.
A job for GCHQ

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Stalag 14 - 27-Oct-11 14:30 

I spelt narcissistic wrongly, it not being a word I often have cause to use, and here's a definition of narcissism :

inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.

erotic gratification derived from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development.

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MikeP - 26-Oct-11 12:12 

It's a bunch of pathetic self-obsessed narcisstic little boys indulging their adolescent fantasies. Others have suggested that it be moved to a bulletin board for perverts but they seem to stick around.

Nobody has to read it, but it is a waste of space and quite irritating to see it.

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MikeP - 26-Oct-11 09:43 

Is this some long running joke that I don't get, or are spies talking to each other in secret phrases and passing information on?

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Stalag 14 - 26-Oct-11 08:32 

Good to hear from you. Wedding was good. Weather was decent enough. I took your advice and adapted. I went further than just having my tie tight, I fastened the top button for the wedding ceremony. I got some nice comments about the tie... thanks! Navy pin-stripe suit, smart white shirt and pale blue silk tie.. just the job! Didn't take me too long to unfasten the top button and pull the tie loose, in fact walking from the photos to the reception place the task was accomplished. Walked with another cousin who saw what I was doing and followed suit. In fact a lot of the guys at the reception had loosened, and it looked good.
Your new tie sounds nice. So when will the first time be when you wear it tightly fastened? (You can say 'never'! haha). Not skinny I hope, so that you can still do a decent tie knot?
Mostly now as the weather is getting cooler I am keeping my tie on in the evenings, but very loose. You ask why I don't completely remove my tie on the way home from work... I just appreciate the look and style of a loosened tie when wearing a decent suit and shirt. Can't really explain it. Can you?
Do you have any 'dos' you are going to in the near future when you have to dress ultra-smart?

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How loose - 26-Oct-11 07:10 

Great stuff - glad you adapted the look for the interviews with a tight tie and collar. Aside from giving smart vibes, as you say it can make you appreciate pulling on the knot and undoing that top button afterwards.
I bought a new tie at the weekend from Lewin's - light blue with floral pattern - a bit slimmer than my usual ones. I wore it today but loose as I had no formal meetings, and kept it on but looser into the evening.
Do you take your tie off when home to differentiate 'social' and 'business' looks - as at lunchtime - for comfort or both? Any reason you don't undo it on the journey home except that it can look good having a much looser tie with a suit?
How did the wedding go by the way? Did you adapt then and encourage other blokes to go looser after the ceremony?

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Adapting - 24-Oct-11 22:32 

Interview went well, and we are employing a new member of my section, so really pleased. In theory it will take pressure off me, but that won't be evident for a while until the person is trained. (You know what it's like!) I must remember to wear a looser fitting shirt round the collar, and not one of my tighter fitting ones! Good to loosen up afterwards, I should say.
Like you, I loosen off down to around second button, so that the benefit is felt. I don't tend to take my tie off until I get home.
Most evenings my tie comes off, unless I just put on a pullover on top, but then the tie may as well come off, as the tie can't be seen above the 'V'

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How loose - 13-Oct-11 13:15 

I realised my tie was loose in the meeting and as you say couldn't do anything about it without drawing attention to it. It did mean I didn't need to loosen off afterwards. Glad you'll have your top button fastened for the interviews but like me I guess you'll undo your collar and pull the tie down afterwards.
It's been a loosened tie week in the main - one meeting with the tie tight and top button done up, but otherwise definitely tie hanging loose (and tie off at lunch).
I like loosening off my tie more on the way home too - usually over the second button down - but sometimes I'll take my tie off completely if hot or if I want to adapt the look.
If my tie is still on (but loose) when I get home I'll sometimes keep it on, but loose, if I'm not going out or changing out of work gear. What about you?

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Adapting - 12-Oct-11 20:40 

That will be interesting to note.. how many other guys loosen up after the photos. They're having the photos in the grounds where the reception is to be held, so I shall keep a careful watch and report back! So, did you realise that the tie was loosened mid-way through the meeting and could do nothing about it, or afterwards when you came to loosen up you realised that the tie was already loose? I'm also interviewing; I shall have to have my top button fastened and tie tight on Thursday morning - first time for a while. Guess you loosened up directly afterwards? Do you think you'll be in for a 'loosened tie week'?
Ah, tie off at lunchtime, but tie kept on after work whilst travelling home. Not sure why I don't take off my tie on the way back, I guess I like the idea of loosening off more, and if I removed my tie leaving work I wouldn't be able to have it hanging loose! What about you, do you remove your tie straight after work? If not, when do you remove it?

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How loose - 8-Oct-11 19:16 

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