There aren't enough bridle paths
12-May-2008
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My gripe is the stupid ignorant and uneducated comments made by some people.  Horse riders constantly get moaned at for being on the road thereby causing motorists to have to slow down.  I often hear, "horses shouldn't be on roads, that’s what bridle paths are for" or "horses should be ridden in fields or woods, not on roads because the hold up traffic and cars have to slow down".  With this in mind, I’d like to take this opportunity to set the record straight.

Bridle paths - There are hardly ANY in the UK, especially compared to the amount of footpaths.  Instead of moaning, how about doing something constructive and writing to your local council and suggesting that more bridle paths be created, this will help get some of the horses off the road and therefore hopefuly make them safer?

Not enough bridle paths

Getting to the few bridle paths that there are isn't straight forward as we often have to ride on the road!  Do you think we actually WANT to ride on the road when you consider the fact that a fair portion of drivers are actually quite horrible to us?  We can’t certainly can't ride on the grass verges because then the council would complain.  In fact if we’re caught riding on them we could even be fined.

Fields and woods are often private property hence, we can’t ride in them.  Trust me we would all love to, but the sad fact is they’re quite often just not accessible to horse riders.

If you have passed a horse slowly and considerately on the road, and the rider has not said thanks, nodded or smiled to acknowledge your consideration, then I apologise on their behalf and of the UK riding community.  That kind of ignorance is also wrong and I have in fact myself on more than one occasion called out the window it won’t kill you to say thanks you know!!"

On the other hand, if you have just zoomed past a horse and rider at anything over 30 to 40mph (depending on what type of road or circumstance) with absolutely no consideration), then I hope you get you deserve...

Most of us riders are drivers too and we all slow down for horses. It doesn’t hurt to reduce your speed.  But what might hurt would be a one ton horse coming through your windscreen because it was too much of a hardship to show some consideration!

We all have to co-exist out there on the roads, so all we are asking for is some consideration - and on our behalf we will try to be courteous too.

By: Vicki


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A Walker: You could try contacting the Access Officer at the BHS. If you google British Horse Society, you will find the link to their website. From memory, it is www.bhs.org, but that may not be correct.
*Nikki  07-Feb-2008 12:46

 
meanwhile back to the subject of bridle paths or the lack of them.

which group or society would be interested in making a request to use Gorse Hall, Stalybridge,Cheshire as a bridle pathway. It is currently not being used for anything except dog walking and teenage drinking. It is a lovely site and would benefit from regular use by horse and rider.
*A Walker  07-Feb-2008 11:57

 
One thing I will apologise for ... I know I tend to rabbit on about horses, and be rather robust in some of my postings. But I would like to think I would never be downright rude and abusive ... even with the most intense provocation.

As Freddie has said, I am unswerving in my conviction about the rights of horses and their riders to ride on the road. Anyone who doesn't like this, should take this issue up with the Department of Transport and get the Highway Code changed. Whilst it is legal to ride on roads, then horse riders will continue to do so.

All we ask in return is that other road users follow the rules of the road known as The Highway Code.

So I apologise is anyone thinks I have been overly rude, robust or assertive.
*Nikki  30-Jan-2008 12:01

 
OK, thank you Site Admin for clearing this up. I was wrong in that I thought multiple "names" were in fact one person ... it appears that they ... potentially ... were different people, but all the "people" mentioned by Site Admin as posting from the same IP address were obviously "clubbing together", comparing notes, whatever you want to call it, to sabotage what is at least to me an extremely serious subject. In other words, trolls and WUMs. Or they were indeed all the same, using multiple names but posting from the same IP address. Either way, what saddo's IMO.

The important message that I and other riders continuously try to convey to non-riders is that we are not, most of us at least are normal hard-working and extremely poor (because horses cost a bomb to look after!) people. All we want to do is to carry out our method of recreation, horse riding. Unfortunately, many of us do not have access AT ALL to off road riding, hence the title of this thread "There are not enough bridle paths". It is a very good point ... I cannot stand by and allow mischievous trolls to sabotage serious threads like this one by either pretending to be other people in order to stir up trouble, or by not doing this by encouraging work mates, friends, whowever they may be, to "pretend" to own a riding school, or be a rider who does not agree with what me, a fellow rider, is saying. There is no horse rider in the land who has to ride on the road and would disagree with what I say. Every single rider can quote a near death experience whilst out on their horse on the road, so this is why I just knew that we had some trolls running amok here.

I may have been slightly off track, but the bottom line is I was correct in suspecting a wind-up. So I apologise to anyone whom I have accused of posting under different names if I was wrong.
*Nikki  30-Jan-2008 11:57

 
Site Admin/Nikki,

Can I point out please that this IP address is registered to a company that operates a dual shift system. We also operate another IP address through aol which is intended for staff recreational use. These pcs are in the canteen and should only be used during break times. We set up a different IP address as we know that whatever controls you put in place people will still use the internet for non business matters and we wanted to reduce the risk of corruption of our main server. On the whole people should only be posting on here from the AOL IP address. I must admit that I have posted on both before but have always identified myself as 'Freddie'.
The weekly gripe is saved to favourites and I can only assume that this is the reason that several employees have posted here.
I became aware of this last night when I overheard two staff members discussing the site. I have read through some of the posts and it is fair to say that some are quite rude. I cannot attribute these to any particular individual at my company except for those attributed to 'Bruce'. I can confirm that his comments regarding his military past and ownership of horses are indeed true.
I have today circulated an e-mail to all company mailboxes instructing people that if they come onto the site during work time they should only enter into sensible debate and not, if you'll pardon the expression, mud slinging.
I have had many interesting discussions with Nikki on this site and have found her to be on the whole a pleasant person with the courage of her convictions. On these horse related threads I have to say that I don't agree with many of her comments but opinions are just that, opinions.
Should any further abusive posts be made from either of these IP addresses please inform me of the time and date and I should be able to identify the culprit and take the relevant action.

Best Regards

Freddie
*Freddie  30-Jan-2008 08:36

 
For goodness sake horse lover or whatever you call yourself,do you actually have any friends??
*Digsy  30-Jan-2008 01:14

 
Okay.. anything for some constructive debate instead of squabbling!

Fair of mind, Bruce, Tiddles, Freddie (plus more aliases than you can chuck a stick at!) may or may not be the same person - at least they are all on the same IP address.

Likewise..

Horse Lover, scared, southfields, H.L., I think I live in 1880, I live in the year 2008, I hate horse poo..., Strange as it sounds, I don't like poo - all come from the same IP, but not the same one as the person above.

Hope that clears it up. Now please people. Be nice to each other or I'll have to start blocking just like we did with the naughty children on AOL. Which reminds me, must take my foot off their necks now they may have grown up!
*Site Admin  30-Jan-2008 00:23

 
Can site ad. please verify for the sake of HRH Nikki that 'Bruce, Sid, Fair of Mind and Horse Lover' are NOT one person. Thank you.
*Horse Lover  29-Jan-2008 23:55

 
Can site admin. please now get involved to put this to bed once and for all... Nikki, for the last time, because lots of people find your comments to be nonsense does not mean it is the same person. WAKE UP.
*Horse Lover  29-Jan-2008 23:41

 
Horse Lover, I am only insulting those people who deserve it.

Those of you who are insulting everybody's intelligence on this excellent website.

In my opinion, posting under more than one name in order to create mischief is hardly something to be proud of. When it is done in such a clumsy way, it is highly insulting. I am more gullible than most people, as I have said before.

But even I could see through your pathetic attempt to create trouble on here.
*Nikki  29-Jan-2008 23:06

 
Nikki I think you will find you are the only person who is insulting others. And I wonder how popular it would be if YOU go?
*Horse Lover  29-Jan-2008 21:25

 
Horse Lover : please will you just GO !! You keep threatening to, but then keep coming back like The Terminator.

You can beg and plead all you like, you have been rumbled, it is obvious you are a set-up. We have yet another riding school all of a sudden popping up out of the blue, it's just a joke ! It would be funny, if the subject matter were not so serious ... that of the safety of horses and their riders, not to mention motorists, on the roads of GB.

Please stop insulting everyone's intelligence and gallop back to your imaginary riding school in Wakefield, or Epsom, or wherever it is. And don't forget to pick up any deposits as you go !!
*Nikki  29-Jan-2008 20:38


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