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Driver wouldn't let me take my dog on the bus

I am writing to complain about a couple of incidents that occurred on Friday the 6th of July 2007.

The first one happened at around 1:55pm at the Merton Garage bus stop in Colliers Wood.  I was waiting for the 219 bus towards Clapham Junction with my 6 month old Border Collie puppy whom I take to work.  When the bus arrived at the aforementioned time, I walked towards the door of the bus to wait for all the people waiting before me to get in, after making sure the bus was not crowded and there was room for my dog and myself I got ready to board, out of politeness I gestured my dog at the driver and walked the step towards the bus, the driver shook his head, I stopped and asked in a very polite manner why I wasn’t allowed in with the dog, he ignored me turned his head around and closed the door on my face and without any warning he drove off.  I am very sure I do not need to explain how uncomfortable, upset and angry the rude actions of the driver made me feel.  The electronic board at this stop hasn’t been working for a week or so, and without the time to wait around I was forced to call a taxi to pick me up and take me to work.

After 12 hrs at work as a nanny caring for 3 children I finished work and waited at the Brodrick Road stop towards Wimbledon, again for a 219 bus to take me home.  I waited for 20 minutes, when the 219 came, it was the same driver!  I approached and got in with my dog, he said no again; I asked very politely and calmly why, to which he replied he didn’t want to, I said that as far as I knew (and researched) it is legal, and permissible to take dogs in buses, he said no again, I said I needed to get home, and pointed out that as he was in his cabin and the tired pup wouldn’t be too noticeable for him whilst he drove the bus.  He mostly ignored me when I spoke, and didn’t give me any reasonable answers as to why he had decided not to let me in, I begged once again to which he muttered “he didn’t have to go through this” and turned off the engine of the bus.  After asking one last time to let me in and let me get home, and after ignoring me once again, I had to step off the bus in a huge state of distress.

Border collie - dog not allowed on the bus As he sped off I had a panic attack that lasted almost 4 minutes and left me like a wreck, I also had to wait 20 more minutes for another 219 to take me home.  In addition to the upset this experience caused me I haven’t been able to sleep as I keep re-living the humiliating experience over and over again and over and over again I feel angry, upset and confused.

I am deeply disturbed by this incident, I feel humiliated and angry.  I am an honest hard working person who has chosen to travel by public transport as the best and most environmentally friendly way to travel around London.  I am also a polite and collected individual who treated this bus driver with the up-most respect given the circumstances of which this event unfolded.  I was treated unfairly and was discriminated against for having a dog.  How am I supposed to travel?  Why is a bus driver allowed to treat me in such dismissive and rude manner?  Why is he allowed to humiliate me in front of other passengers?

I could agree there could be circumstances in which a dog poses a risk for passengers in a public bus, but a 6 month old puppy?  A half asleep six month old pup?  And what risk could it pose for a driver in a locked up cabin?  This is public transport, I am a member of the public, and the driver is driving a public transport bus, not his personally owned taxi service.

I take the 219 every day to and from work and I am very disappointed in the unfair and rude way I was treated.  It is not only the first time I am refused entry with my puppy but also that a bus driver has treated me in such an awful, inhumane and inconsiderate way.

Given my circumstances I cannot afford to pay for a taxi to make my way to and from work when I bring my dog in, so I guess I will have keep taking the 219, I just hope never to see this driver again.

London and the Borough of Merton are working very hard to become greener and more environmentally friendly, all these initiatives must be enforced with a view into making people and most certainly people that run public services aware of the benefits and also the tolerance, responsibility and professionalism required to make these schemes work for the good of all.

Surely acts like this one won't encourage any dog-owners to take the bus with their dogs, and will instead push them to keep using taxis and private cars at the expense of the environment.

What can i do now?  Is there a group i can join for a fair way to travel in London or are there any other people out there with a similar experience?

By:Claudia

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Dogs should not be allowed on public transport - period. Owners should be walking them instead. It is just gross and this is not a country of 100% dog lovers. If you haven't got a car, see if a mini-cab will take you e.g. in an emergency, vet etc... They should also be mandatory paid dog-licenses to pay for removal of their crap, which blights just about everywhere in London.

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Anonymous - 17-Oct-11 17:38 

You are allowed to take dogs on board a bus, but only at the driver's discretion. If a driver feels uncomfortable letting a dog on his bus, then he has every right not to allow you on. You never know, he may he may be scared of dogs...there may be another dog on board....he may have had a past experience where a dog was on board, and it distracted him from driving. Judging from your description, maybe he should of been less rude, but you don't have guarenteed right that you should bring your dog on board. I've taken my huge german sheperd on board a bus before, and the driver was ok with it, but if he wasn't ok with it, it wouldn't of bothered me, as you can't expect drivers to let animals on board a bus.
My advice is, get the train if thats possible, as dogs are always allowed on there.

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Alex - 12-Apr-11 10:46 

dogs are now alowoed on the bus because people are allergic to them

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dave - 16-Feb-11 17:56 

If you read TFL's Conditions of Carriage , section 14. "14.1. You can bring an assistance dog with you without charge. You can also take with you without charge any other dog or inoffensive animal, unless there is a good reason for us to refuse it (such as if the animal seems dangerous). You must keep it under control on a lead or in a suitable container, and must not allow it on a seat. Staff are not allowed to take charge of any animal."

So you have the right to take a dog. It's not simply driver discretion. If the driver gets awkward , and Oh God they love to be awkward about everything don't they ? just give a pocket Nazi some power and see how they behave , then challenge them. What good reason have they to refuse ? Why do you think this dog is dangerous ? is it looking at you in a funny way ?

Remind them that a) we pay taxes to subsidise their employment and of course we pay b) fares.
It's good to be polite and reasonable , but if I had the time I might well just sit down with Bob the Dog , call the Police then pal , this is a civil matter , your not complying with your own conditions of carriage , I pay your wages , my taxes pay your wages.....etc

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simon alford - 29-Jan-11 13:38 

You should report that horrible driver to the company and if nothing happens or you get no response then you should report the company to a TV show (you know the ones) which would embarrass them into giving you a public apology.
You are allowed to take dogs onto a bus regardless of what the driver thinks.

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angry guy - 29-Nov-10 20:10 

I have never heard such twaddle in all my life. Religions have nothing to do with pets other than the fact that some teach compassion towards all things, human or otherwise.
You are fully entitled to take your pet onto a bus provided it is behaving itself and that is that. It is not upto the driver to discriminate and make you a social outcast simply because you have a pet.
It's about time the people of this country started voicing their opinions in favour of their pets and if someone does not like the idea off travelling on public transport whilst a pet is present, then tough, they can be the ones to gett off and take the next bus.
Now would they bot have a lot to say about being treated like this eh?.

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petownerfirst - 2-Oct-10 17:45 

Hi Claudia,

Simply ignore the driver, show your pass (or use your Oyster), take a seat. If the driver has an issue with the dog, let him either forcibly remove you or call the police.

Either way, you win, he loses (might even get sacked).

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Lars - 17-Sep-10 22:52 

In 2009 the dangerous dogs act was changed if your dog is classed as dangerous I.e on the list then by law it must have a musel on simple it's the law

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Steve - 18-Aug-10 17:47 

chillyz

What has Sharia law have to do with dogs on buses or indeed anything else that happens in this country?

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incognito/a - 24-Jun-10 20:52 

Religion or no religion, a dog is not a human. If you treat it like one, then thats a preference but you cant expect everyone to share yours. Especially on a bus which is a closed moving space. Also, dogs have unique issues they bring up in such a close proximity some of which are listed above. Adding to that, not all dogs are well behaved. Even if they are well behaved, they may act first before their owner can tell them to not to do whatever it is they instinctively decide.
Using this to attack sharia law is weak logic no matter how you look at it.
And yes, Im a cat person. meow!

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chillyz - 24-Jun-10 20:22 

I take my dog on the bus all the time. he's a 4 month old chihuahua. I always go upstairs and sit right at the back. he also has a dog bag with a mesh front cover. The bus drivers never have a problem with him, and most of the passengers are fine with him, apart from a few. I think it's mainly at the driver's discretion. I think if the driver is okay with it, then indeed go ahead. Before I got my dog, I was against letting dogs on buses, purely because most of the dogs that get on are staffs and rotties. but I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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jayrose - 2-Jun-10 11:07 

I have that exact same problem.....with a tiny chihuahua cross!!! Who is VERY well behaved on transport. One driver said it was because of his religion which I know is not a valid excuse according to TFL but they still did nothing.

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Loli - 13-May-10 17:51 

JM, you have the right to ask the driver for his driver number. At least note down the route number, vehicle fleet number and/or registration number and operator. Complain to TfL who will no doubt contact the bus company involved, who in turn will be able to see which driver was on duty when you boarded.

I'm sure there are more important things to worry about when travelling by bus, as Nikki had very kindly pointed them out. Not to mention the vandalism and anti-social behaviour that also occurs on buses which most people turn a blind eye to anyway. Yet a dog being allowed onto a bus, well, there's an almighty uproar.

Are dogs free now by the way? I know when I was younger the local company charged a special dog fare. Them were the days!

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Youthful Griper - 4-May-10 16:54 

JM - Think yourself lucky, if we did have Sharia in this country, dogs would be banned as pets, only working dogs would be allowed and they would have to live in an outside kennel, they are considered as dirty animals.

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 4-May-10 14:29 

Hi there, you are not the only one this is happening to. I have a dog and am having the same issue with one specific driver the the route 7 in west london. 3 times now he has had a go at me when I board with my dog, specifically telling me that I must muzzle the dog and that it is London Buses policy and stated on their website. I have been on the website - no such information, checked it out with the transport ombudsman who inform me that there is no such policy and have now made a formal complaint to London Buses and asked for clarification on the issue. Whilst I appreicate and understand it is driver discretion and would never want someone to be uncomfortable, I am fed up with being discriminated against for having a dog. I respect others concerns whether religious, afraid etc and would like the same respect back.

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JM - 4-May-10 13:22 

Kit:

An excellent, well balanced response. Very well said.

I'm off now up to the pub with my hairy monster ... see what mayhem we can cause amongst the dog-haters !!

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Nikki - 2-May-10 18:30 

I often have an allergic reaction to the chemicals in some perfumes; some people seem to ladle on industrial strength scent or aftershave that could fell an elephant at a hundred metres.
It starts me sneezing and then, quite often, I lose my sense of smell and taste for days.

Q. Do I think that people should be banned from wearing cheap nasty perfumes in public places and buses or is it just tough luck for me?

A. It’s tough luck for me.

It's a shame if people are genuinely allergic to dog dander but people have a right to travel with their dogs on public transport if they are well behaved and not behaving aggressively. (Pity we cannot apply the same rule to some people).

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Kit - 2-May-10 18:21 

How many dirty, smelly humans, stinking of nicotine, bad breath and B.O. should be allowed on a bus at the same time?

You are being ridiculous ... it is very unlikely that even as many as 5 dogs would be on a bus at any one time, so your scenario is an extremely unlikely one. However mine of, say, 10-15 stinking smelly humans is perfectly feasible. Why should I want to suffer so many smelly people? But do you hear me complaining about my malodorous fellow humans? No. So please don't complain about dogs just because YOU do not like them.

Your second paragraph clearly shows you know nothing about dogs. Just as with humans, if they are well socialised, well brought up, well trained, there will be no trouble when 2 or even 20 dogs meet in a small, confined space.

I am sorry your children are allergic to dog fluff ... they would definitely not like mine, who is an Alaskan Malamute cross Siberian Husky, with a double wolf coat, the undercoat being like very soft cotton wool! But I cannot accept that because your child is allergic to my dog, that I should not be allowed to take my dog on the bus. What about a child with a peanut allergy? Should it become illegal for anyone to eat peanuts on public transport just in case a passenger has a serious peanut allergy?

You are just showing yourself up to being the bigoted nimby that you ... ban all dogs just because YOU don't like them because your children are allergic to pet fluff. That is just totally unreasonable.

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Nikki - 2-May-10 14:33 

Hi Niki, leaving out the issue of hygiene. How many dogs should be allow on
a bus at the same time? 5- 10-15.
Should the bus driver allow the first 5 and refuse the rest?
Will you be offended,if you were the last dog traveller to enter the bus
and was refuse, because there are already 5 dogs on the bus?

We all know when 2 different dogs meet, in a confine space there can be
serious confusion.
If there were 5 dog travellers waiting at the bus stop.Should the driver
allow the first 3?
So in the interest of equality .. all dogs should be ban from buses.


My kids(4) who are well behave,and sit lower deck, are not entitled to
dog free transport. No, we simply get off and make way for dog travellers.
because they are allergic to pet dander.

Some say that their dog dont shed hairs? Special breed apparently.I am
yet to meet one.And how is the driver suppose to know that?

Every dog owner thinks their dog is not like the other dogs.
Again in the interest of equality .. ban em all.

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nodogs - 2-May-10 13:14 

Brilliantly well said pro-dogs. The selfishness of people sometimes knows no bounds. It is most unfortunate if you are allergic to pet hair and fur, but I'm sorry, you can't expect the whole world to accommodate itself to suit you - you have a problem, live with it.

As you say, you don't like screaming kids and smelly babies. But you don't expect the bus to be free of these public nuisances !!

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Nikki - 2-May-10 09:59 

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