No road tax on foreign cars in the UK
Living in the West Midlands I am sick to the teeth of the sheer amount of foreign vehicles used on UK roads with no road tax. In the street where I live there is a foreign vehicle with no road tax.
I contacted the DVLA who advised me that they can drive in the UK for 6 months, after this period they must register the car in the UK, pay for road tax, insurance and get an MOT. I advised the DVLA that the vehicle in question had been in the UK for 3 year.
Their response was "the law states that they must register the car in the UK", so I asked them what could be done and their reply was, "If they don't register the vehicle then there is nothing the DVLA can do".
WHAT???? I'd advised the owner that it was the law that they should register. DVLA's response was "well if it's not registered it's nothing to do with us, contact the police". I even tried to give the DVLA the registration number and address of the owner of the vehicle, but they would not take it from me and basically didn't want to know (you cant escape the computer eh?).
I then contacted the police who didn't want to know either. They said "there's nothing we can do, contact DVLA". This foreign vehicle had a fixed penalty notice for blocking the street, needless to say that with the vehicle not being registered the fine would not have been paid. Even after advising the police of this they said "it is nothing to do with us".
My next vehicle purchase is going to be from abroad, that way I do not have to purchase road tax, insurance or get an MOT. Let's all hope that none of these unregistered vehicles mows anyone down. The police would have no idea who owns the vehicle or even what kind of vehicle it was. They would literally, "get away with murder".
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listen guys, is nothing true from what you said ok. i can said that i got evrething on my car, mot , i got my car insurance , i got all my paper work for the car. is nothing to do with us if we r out of road tax, this is not mind that we dont have the car registered in our names. so please dont make me too said something else . is not our fault . if they doing something to make us to pay for road tax is fine , but dont try to make us in front of you as a nobody ok
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Freeman you still have not answered my question about my car repairs. He is not dealing like a man, he is not making reparations, he is at fault. Don't force someone to have insurance. When will your miricles take up the slack in your system man?
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Do they have road tax and insurance on cars in Somalia?
But that wouldn’t be anarchy would it, just a demonstration of being a “freeman”
But that wouldn’t be anarchy would it, just a demonstration of being a “freeman”
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"By forcing people to get taxed, licensed, and insurance"
In an ideal world we would have none of these, however in the real world there has to a set of rules for the population to follow, it's called the law and if you break the law you are a criminal.
"Surely we must be free and have no 'master' telling us what to do."
By master I assume you mean government.
That statement implies "I can do what I like when I like" with no rules or laws that affect my being; as I said anarchy.
The society you want only works with a population of one.
In an ideal world we would have none of these, however in the real world there has to a set of rules for the population to follow, it's called the law and if you break the law you are a criminal.
"Surely we must be free and have no 'master' telling us what to do."
By master I assume you mean government.
That statement implies "I can do what I like when I like" with no rules or laws that affect my being; as I said anarchy.
The society you want only works with a population of one.
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Driving on the wrong side of the road etc. If it was like you describe would cause harm, injury, or even death.
Trust someone to talk about the most extremely ridiculous example with the pretext of using the "anarchy" charge.
Its exactly like I said: "Police should just be making sure no body kills anyone else, nobody steals from anyone, nobody injures anyone or destroys anyone elses property, or uses fraud in their contracts."
How is that anarchy?
As for accidents - then deal with them like men, make reparations if you are at fault. But don't force someone to have insurance. There was a time when insurance never existed you know, we won't descend into chaos without it.
If no one his harmed or injured there is no crime.
The real "anarchy" is the revenue collection anarchy of taxing, charging, and fining, people for everything under the sun. Corporations and Government making a quick buck on every aspect of our life.
We should not be taxed for merely existing.
Trust someone to talk about the most extremely ridiculous example with the pretext of using the "anarchy" charge.
Its exactly like I said: "Police should just be making sure no body kills anyone else, nobody steals from anyone, nobody injures anyone or destroys anyone elses property, or uses fraud in their contracts."
How is that anarchy?
As for accidents - then deal with them like men, make reparations if you are at fault. But don't force someone to have insurance. There was a time when insurance never existed you know, we won't descend into chaos without it.
If no one his harmed or injured there is no crime.
The real "anarchy" is the revenue collection anarchy of taxing, charging, and fining, people for everything under the sun. Corporations and Government making a quick buck on every aspect of our life.
We should not be taxed for merely existing.
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"Police should just be making sure no body kills anyone else, nobody steals from anyone, nobody injures anyone or destroys anyone elses property, or uses fraud in their contracts."
I think we should drive on any side of the road at any speed and ignore all those goverment imposed traffic signs and traffic lights etc.
How dare they tell us what to do.
What you want FreeMan is anarchy
I think we should drive on any side of the road at any speed and ignore all those goverment imposed traffic signs and traffic lights etc.
How dare they tell us what to do.
What you want FreeMan is anarchy
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Hallelujah freeman you are so right. Us slaves to society are desperate for your answer. What do I do? A freeman damaged my car. Oh what a lovely guy he was, so apologetic, so polite, so poor. The poor soul could not afford insurance, road tax, or M, O,T. So he was forced by society to drive without any. Give me the answer, you are the Messiah. I am anxious to cancel my insurance etc & start driving with your followers, the lads of the free world. Once you have performed your miracles on my car.
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I think everyone is arguing about the wrong things.
Traveling is a Common-Law Right. You can walk, go in a car, on a horse, on a bike, on a donkey. We are all born free and have inalienable RIGHTS as human beings.
Anyone can travel. By forcing people to get taxed, licensed, and insurance, that right is being converted into a privilege under our very noses. At the end of the day a Car is our rightly owned private property and the people of this country have been foolish to allow the crooks in Government to put all these hooks into place and then be allowed to take away your private property and even crush it if you don't conform.
There must be a state of affairs where one can be free to live and travel in this country and own private property without interference from the Government every time we pop our head around the corner.
This matter is not only in relation to driving, there all sorts of other things. Allegedly slavery has been abolished... so why are we under so much control by the Government? Surely we must be free and have no 'master' telling us what to do.
The root problem is the public allowing themselves to be taken for a ride by the Government. The Government and the Police should just be making sure no body kills anyone else, nobody steals from anyone, nobody injures anyone or destroys anyone elses property, or uses fraud in their contracts.
Otherwise just LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Traveling is a Common-Law Right. You can walk, go in a car, on a horse, on a bike, on a donkey. We are all born free and have inalienable RIGHTS as human beings.
Anyone can travel. By forcing people to get taxed, licensed, and insurance, that right is being converted into a privilege under our very noses. At the end of the day a Car is our rightly owned private property and the people of this country have been foolish to allow the crooks in Government to put all these hooks into place and then be allowed to take away your private property and even crush it if you don't conform.
There must be a state of affairs where one can be free to live and travel in this country and own private property without interference from the Government every time we pop our head around the corner.
This matter is not only in relation to driving, there all sorts of other things. Allegedly slavery has been abolished... so why are we under so much control by the Government? Surely we must be free and have no 'master' telling us what to do.
The root problem is the public allowing themselves to be taken for a ride by the Government. The Government and the Police should just be making sure no body kills anyone else, nobody steals from anyone, nobody injures anyone or destroys anyone elses property, or uses fraud in their contracts.
Otherwise just LIVE AND LET LIVE.
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In the Czech Republic, we have to pay a toll anytime we go on a motorway (or prepay it for a year/month/week/day)
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one think... i ask why english people not paying road tax in spain? driving thei cars longer than 6 mont? and not geting spanish insurance? law priti much same like in engliand?
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The insurance in UK for those who were not born, and had no NCB gained in the UK is ridiculously expensive! This is the only reason why ppl are using foreign cars.
In east europe everyone must have an obligatory car insurance. Same as here the Third Party Only. But for whatever un-understandable reason here that one is more expensive than the full comprehensive.
Do u think it is fair that I'm forced to pay 3.000 GBP insurance after I've been regularly driving for more than 14 years? The insurance system is rotten in this country.
You pay a lot, because u penalize the one who is in charge. His insurance will have to pay you thousands because u claim personal injury, even though u have absolutely no problem. You will get a courtesy car , and you will be charged ridiculous amount for that.
They rip u off, and everyone has to pay for that!
Believe me if the insurance companies wouldn't want to rip off the hardly earned and taxed money of all foreigners they would happily get a UK registered vehicle.
In east europe everyone must have an obligatory car insurance. Same as here the Third Party Only. But for whatever un-understandable reason here that one is more expensive than the full comprehensive.
Do u think it is fair that I'm forced to pay 3.000 GBP insurance after I've been regularly driving for more than 14 years? The insurance system is rotten in this country.
You pay a lot, because u penalize the one who is in charge. His insurance will have to pay you thousands because u claim personal injury, even though u have absolutely no problem. You will get a courtesy car , and you will be charged ridiculous amount for that.
They rip u off, and everyone has to pay for that!
Believe me if the insurance companies wouldn't want to rip off the hardly earned and taxed money of all foreigners they would happily get a UK registered vehicle.
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Legit Car Owner - 20-Nov-11 18:01
Perhaps he's just smarter than you. Nothing dodgy about selling a car before the tax expires, and no reason to assume they are uninsured. If you want to check if a vehicle (UK reg) is insured you can do so here : http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/askmid.aspx
Perhaps he's just smarter than you. Nothing dodgy about selling a car before the tax expires, and no reason to assume they are uninsured. If you want to check if a vehicle (UK reg) is insured you can do so here : http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/askmid.aspx
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I have a Polish neighbour that has had numerous cars and he always seems to sell them right before the road tax runs out and he goes on to get another one and the same process all over again. Is this some way of dodging paying car insurance? If it is, I think it is so unfair. He has been in this country only a couple of years and is already up on the ins and outs. While me being an honest British citizen would never even think of doing that! If he is doing something illegitimate do you think it is only a matter of time before he gets caught?
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Legit Car Owner - 20-Nov-11 18:01
I am not happy about things that have been said about driving a foreign car in UK. I can tell you honestly, I came from Poland over 6years ago. Have UK Driving Licence for over 2years now. I have been driving 1.2 Petrol Fiat Punto X Reg - which cost me 780pounds. I had it insured for 1800pound per year, Taxed and MOT. Its been difficult for me to have it insured, so I have sold car and didn't drive any car for over 18months now.
My boyfriend have a Polish car - Mercedez Benz 124, 2.5 Diesel 1990. He is paying 200pounds a year for insurance and every year he have MOT done. Back in Poland we dont have Road Tax. The Road Tax is included in the price of a fuel. So we have much more expensive petrol.
I just think that this is unfair that loads of people are being very selfish as they are just worried that they pay too much tax or insurance. But trust me - all Polish cars are insured! If they didn't have them insured - they would have their ccar taken away.
Stop being so unnfair. We are all paying insurance and have MOT - not every single EEU country have the same rules as UK!!!
My boyfriend have a Polish car - Mercedez Benz 124, 2.5 Diesel 1990. He is paying 200pounds a year for insurance and every year he have MOT done. Back in Poland we dont have Road Tax. The Road Tax is included in the price of a fuel. So we have much more expensive petrol.
I just think that this is unfair that loads of people are being very selfish as they are just worried that they pay too much tax or insurance. But trust me - all Polish cars are insured! If they didn't have them insured - they would have their ccar taken away.
Stop being so unnfair. We are all paying insurance and have MOT - not every single EEU country have the same rules as UK!!!
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It is everyones' civic duty to report lawbreakers to the authorities, nothing to do with 'the dark communist era' which I imagine very few of you know anything about anyway.
Untaxed cars are also generally uninsured, so it's not just a question of tax evasion, it's about being a liability to their owners and other road users. It has all been said before.
Untaxed cars are also generally uninsured, so it's not just a question of tax evasion, it's about being a liability to their owners and other road users. It has all been said before.
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It's unbelievable that you report your neighbours at the police - like people in the dark communist era. Well done...
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That's not true.
The vehicle has a registration number on it's own country and if there is any problem they can get the plate number and send a fine to the owners address. I just got a fine for a congestion charge a few years ago, traveling in London. I didn't knew about it.
Regardless the Road Tax and MOT, well foreign vehicles pay it on their respective countries. If you travel to France you won't pay the tax either, it that unfair to you?
The vehicle has a registration number on it's own country and if there is any problem they can get the plate number and send a fine to the owners address. I just got a fine for a congestion charge a few years ago, traveling in London. I didn't knew about it.
Regardless the Road Tax and MOT, well foreign vehicles pay it on their respective countries. If you travel to France you won't pay the tax either, it that unfair to you?
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A vignette IS a general road tax (in all but name) for the roads that are supported by them (A and S roads in Austria). A toll paid at a toll gate is a specific road tax.
But that is moot. Unregistered cars, in the country for a period in excess of six months are evading taxes, not avoiding them. evading them. This is a crime. I would not like to live next to the three wise monkeys crowd here who would obviously mind their own business when they saw their neighbours houses being robbed.
But that is moot. Unregistered cars, in the country for a period in excess of six months are evading taxes, not avoiding them. evading them. This is a crime. I would not like to live next to the three wise monkeys crowd here who would obviously mind their own business when they saw their neighbours houses being robbed.
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A vignette is not a general road tax. It allows access to toll roads without the complex systems in, for example, Spain, France and Italy where you have to keep stopping to pay at toll gates. That said, the latter system is fairer as it spreads the burden more fairly in that those who use the roads most pay the most.
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stop digging T H we will just consult the AA or RAC
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