Heading towards a police state?

Police state ! I hear that the police were upset about the cuts - ahhh well I'm sure over the years enough officers have pinched a thing or two on various raids , cash , watches & jewellery .that's what happens when you abuse the system ,David & Nick have no intention of letting you guys off the hook .Lets be honest the police & CPS waste £1000s on malicious prosecutions & it just got tougher all round .Maybe they will think twice when trying to fit someone up .On bbc1 I saw a documentry they know let out their council house on the sly - another example of abuse .

With all the cameras they have - they still don't review footage I nearly got fitted up for a crime I didn't do . When my Lawyer a certain Mr Khan put them under serious pressure to provide all the CCTV from the location - guess what they withdrew the case -only after 6mnths of making my life feel like I was in hell.
No sorry !and the ipcc another bunch of twits ! They hate to upset the police !
Cameras are setup to cash in on parking fines .

Lol, we all know the police are corrupt - you will be shocked at how drugs come onto the streets & how Money talks in their world .they have let's us down :(
Stephen Lawrence , Ian Tomlinson , John charles just to name a few .
We must not ever trust a police officer - they pick and choose their cases & if they don't like the sound of your name , well they will try their best to mess your life up.
As I keep saying body cameras are a must & that should put a stop to their corrupt practises!
And more legal aid do you can get justice !

The 7/7 bombing happened because MI5 didn't want one of the men's mother to meet the Queen and teach her a valuable lesson about meeting foreigners, not because they wanted to turn this country into a police state.

The conviction of firefighter Simon Ford who helped rescue the victims of 7/7 bombing was meant to disperse rumours that the 7/7 bombers were set up by the intelligence service. He was a drugs runner at the time apparently.

It's those who are greedy who make it easy for this country to be turned into a police state like the July bombers. They were tempted by a very substantial financial reward for undertaking a drugs run set up by intelligence service having absolutely no idea they were carrying bombs in their rucksacks. They definitely rushed into a trap that cost them their lives taking with them the freedom and democracy this country had.

"The most common characteristic of all police states is intimidation by surveillance. Citizens know they are being watched and overheard. Their mail is being examined. Their homes can be invaded."
Vance Packard

"If you've nothing to hide you've nothing to worry about" is the catch-phrase of the dictator, the oppressor and the inquisitor, and it's also the mistaken refuge of their short-sighted, unimaginative victims. Twentieth Century history teaches us that it's those who have nothing to hide who need to worry the most. Those that do have something to hide usually have the sense to keep their noses clean while the rest of us rush headlong into the trap.

You can’t have a successful police state without disarming the public. And that includes disarming them in every way possible. Sad, pathetic England is well on the way toward that scenario. The general public, except for the violent criminals, are disarmed. And the police focus much of their activity toward the general public not the real criminals. It is both much safer for the officers and general more lucrative for the fines they collect for a plethora of petty offenses used to regulate the average person into submission.

Oh,and if I can't look through your personal belongings Gainsborough lad,do you have something to hide that you don't want me to see?

What's next Gainsborough lad? You propably want CCTV to:

• spy on our gardens and make sure we aren't growing cannabis
• spy on our children in the playground and make sure they aren't bullying each other or playing rough games like conkers
• spy on us at the beach to make sure we don't go in too deep
• spy on us in the street to make sure we aren't killing everyone else by smoking a cigarette
• spy on us at home to make sure we aren't using any substances that might harm us
• spy on country people to make sure they're killing the little foxy-woxies nicely
• spy on us while we drive … oh, no, they already do that
• spy on the police to make sure they're spying on the rest of us properly.

Nothing to hide/nothing to fear is a specious argument and one beloved of police states everywhere. Your insistence that anyone who disagree with your view must have something to hide is very chilling.

I don’t want to be watched everywhere I go. Those who man these camera centres will often target those who look “different” or suspicious to them when seen through the filter of their own prejudices. Some one with a dislike of black people will consider them to be more likely to commit a crime for example.

I used to work with someone who was a total Goth – he wore all black, had purple hair and wore black eye make up. He is was completely honest and held down a steady job but he was followed everywhere by store security guards who made the simplistic judgement that someone who looked , to their eyes, so outlandish must be up to no good.

He could have hired himself out to shoplifters as they were probably boosting everything they could grab while the guards were standing about a foot from my friend and following his every move. It did not seem to occur to their tiny minds that someone who wanted to get away with shop lifting would try to blend in and look nondescript but people who like power over others are rarely that bright.

We have a right to some privacy, to go about our business without being watched from the moment we leave our homes. I accept that shopkeepers need to protect themselves from shoplifters but I object to being under surveillance in the street or when I am having a drink or a meal. This does not mean I have something to hide, only a warped mind would think it does.

The real trouble makers usually make sure their faces are hidden by baseball caps and big hoods. It is the rest of us they are watching.

The discussion is over when people stop posting.

Each year in Britain about 7 or 8 children are murderd by strangers but the number of children murdered by their own parents or step parents averages out at one every week.

Perhaps Gainsborough Lad would accept CCTV in every home in which a child lives in order to protect the innocent? If the end justifies the means and there is nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide then surely this would be a good idea.

CCTV only boosts the barbaric mantra "guilty until proven innocent",but if I have nothing to hide...

If you have nothing to hide,then you don't mind if I go through your personal belongings,do you,Gainsborough lad? After all,if you have nothing to hide...

And helpfully, the Good Minister Of What We Should And Shouldn't See offers this helpful observation: "This is not a campaign against free speech, far from it; it is simply there is a wider public interest at stake when it involves harm to other people. We have got to get better at defining where the public interest lies and being clear about it."  Riiiiiight.  "We" meaning government, "public interest" meaning government officials' interests, and "being clear" meaning a whole new hosts of fines, penalties and prison time for noncompliant nasties who dare to publish content Labour judges "not in the public interest."

Don't have a TV licence to watch television? We're watching you and we're coming to get you - it's all in the database. The licence, used to pay for the BBC, is mandatory for all TV owners and the British government is spending millions on a campaign to promote its ability to track you down.  Don't have the proper car tax disk? You're being tracked, and we'll come to crush your car.  But the Labour Party government in London isn't content to stop here. It has a new idea - let's censor the Internet! The kind of ratings used for films could be applied to websites in a bid to better police the Internet and protect children from harmful and offensive material, Britain's minister for culture has said. Internet service providers could also be forced to offer services where the only sites accessible are those deemed suitable for children.

Cameras popped up everywhere. Britain is the most-watched society on earth, with the government boasting that it can track you on foot, and even track your car's movements at every step of the way ... and keep the information for two years. Own more than one mobile phone? The government is encouraging citizens to report you as a potential terrorist.  Are you a dark-complexioned Brazilian traveling on London's underground? Well, police may shoot you eight times in the head for no reason and then lie about you "being suspicious," but the chief of police will be "sorry" about your death - while warning that such shootings could happen again.  Mandatory ID cards with biometric imprints have been created and implemented recently, first for new migrants to the country. Eventually, they will be mandatory for everyone. Don't have the card and cannot present it on demand to authorities? Fine and prison.

I don't care about policing but I do feel we are heading towards an anti-family state!

For all the problems in the world, it is ordinary families and children that have to endure the costs!

It is not safe any more. (CCTV cameras do their job) to an extent)
Days out extremely expensive
Cut backs affecting families, young and old while banks and business are rolling over themselves.

CCTV works in the favour of police and local council. One crook helping another crook.