Parent and child parking spaces - who are they for?

Thanx miserablemoaninggit!! (Love the name!!)

I usually find that those people who have to resort to inaccurate insults because of their ignorance are sadly lacking in the old grey matter required to read and understand.

Nikki, well said. Tina clearly failed to read your last but one post properly. Seems to me that you have the right attitude in not expecting a nanny state to wrap mothers and their children up in cotton wool. Tina, put your reading specs on!

Tina, you are obviously lacking in the ability to read and understand English, so I will try and help you. This is what I said about my daughter's ADHD:

". AND to boot she has ADHD, so was very impulsive and had no fear or thought before running out into traffic, so I had to watch her like a hawk and keep her under my control. All done, all perfectly feasible, without the need of extra wide car parking spaces".

Please take note of the words "so I had to watch her like a hawk and keep her under my control".

What part of this sentence do you not understand, such that you have to suggest that I cannot control my "brat"? My words are perfectly clear ... I kept her under my control. Despite the fact she had a condition which made her impulsive and lacking in the ability to concentrate, I managed to "keep her under control" through discipline and good parenting. And all without Nanny State decreeing that I should have extra special, extra wide parking spaces. Gosh, wasn't I a clever Mummy!!

I am neither a crap parent, nor was I unable to control my child, so I suggest that you get your facts straight before attempting to get one over on me, Madam.

And todays helpful hint is.......If you are a crap parent and cant control your brats tell everyone they have ADHD.

Haha thats hilarious Nikki acusing someone of whingeing thats hilarious coming from the whingiest moaningest old cow ever to post on this site.

Very annoyed mother:

What a load of absolute tosh!! My daughter is now nearly 25, but when I was pregnant and gave birth all those years ago I managed perfectly well thank you very much without the ridiculous nanny state pandering of special extra wide parking spaces!

I am a big girl, 5' 8" with a large frame - at the height of my pregnancy I weighed 12 and a half stone, but despite having a very painful bad back, I managed to manipulate my bulk with ease in and out of my Ford Escort, plus once having given birth, my baby, pushchair, carry cot, car seat, whatever - all without an extra wide parking space!!!

And once your kid has got big enough to walk upright, then you need to exert some control and discipline to stop him or her wandering off in a busy car park. My daughter had reins, they were brilliant ... AND to boot she has ADHD, so was very impulsive and had no fear or thought before running out into traffic, so I had to watch her like a hawk and keep her under my control. All done, all perfectly feasible, without the need of extra wide car parking spaces.

Not rocket science ... you need to wake up to the fact that you have not performed a miracle by giving birth, you have merely performed a perfectly natural mammalian function for which no namby pamby left wing concessions are in any way necessary.

To be disabled ... that is a completely different story ... but you are NOT disabled, or at least I assume you are not as you would have presumably said so. You have a baby, and believe me that is an honour and a privilege, NOT a disability, so get on and enjoy it and stop your whingeing woman!!

I have to confess to having a low 'child tolerance threshold' myself. I don't have an issue with parent and child spaces being a bit wider to facilitate easy opening of car doors etc. I don't understand why they have to be right in front of the shop though. I understand that for disabled spaces but not P&C spaces. They still have legs the same as anyone else. I guess the only reason could be the risk of a child crossing a busy car park. Drivers are often distracted by looking for a space and might not see a small child emerge from between two cars. The answer for this of course is for parents to control their children thus eliminating that risk! I know that won't be popular as it does not pander to the left wing loonies who think we have to make allowances for everyone these days except the majority of the population.

Parents and children? Surely, those in society who are taxpayers give more than enough already, without having to go to supermarkets and see yet more pandering to the natural state of motherhood and children that they are allowed preferential parking rights. The pendulum has swung too far in favour of mothers and children. Are there any "adults only' spaces anymore? Any coffee shops that we can go into without being plagued by the screams of child brats? Or even pubs? It is time we adults spoke out more strongly against the extreme bias toward mothers and children, and demand some adult only time and space. I'm sick of other people's brats!

Some of these comments really puzzle me and are very insulting. As a parent I can only reason that whoever has posted this rubbish have clearly not had any children of their own and have never had to go take a newborn shopping. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to realise that mother and baby spaces are essential when you have a car seat that attaches to your pushchair or to put a small child into a pushchair. Just like a disabled person needs their space for their reason so does a mother with a baby and a pushchair. You also need to think about the safety aspect of it (moving cars and children do not go together!) I would love to see some of these people who have posted these ridiculous comments to even attempt to step outside with a newborn baby, how inconsiderate !

i think pregnant woman should be able to use those spaces because my main issue at the moment is when i come back to my car in a normal parking spot and someone has parked so close to my side i cannot get in without squeezing myself and my bump between the car and the car door, and its not like i can crawl through the passenger side with my bump restricting me

Parents chose to have children. Any inconvenience it causes is the result of not using a condom. Disabled people didn't choose to be disabled.

Having...lol..I'm so peeved I can't type...lol

Have children is a choice being handicapped is not. If you cannot handle walking a few steps further to the store then you probably can't handle being a parent. Remember...choices!

miserable moaning git: to put something in inverted commas is NOT emphasising it - it is either indicating that you are quoting verbatim, hence the use of speech marks (inverted commas), or you are possibly being sarcastic, or ironic - it certainly is not correct to use them for the purpose of emphasis.

The only way to do it on this site is to use capital letters. Sorry, I shall continue to use capital letters, and if you don't like it, then it's quite simple, just ignore my posts!!

BOLD as in capital letters - oops, I am yet fallible myself!

Nikki, inverted commas will do for emphasis - no need to put words in BOLD as it is very irritating. Your last sentence is somewhat ironic in this regard.

If you are referring to me DSG, I think you are slightly exaggerating when you say "please stop using capitals all of the time" I used them just twice in my post - hardly "all of the time"!

It is called "emphasis" - there is no facility on this site for using bold, so that is the only way to emphasise something.

Ok,fine,I agree with your sentence,but could you PLEASE stop using capitals all of the time? They REALLY get on my nerves.

Eric Goolie - clearly named thus because he just spouts a load of old bollocks.

DSG: WITHIN REASON I think being disabled DOES give you the right to park where convenient, as long as you are not blocking the road, or an accessway. Your penultimate sentence is just ridiculous, and I won't credit it with a reply.

Soon,Nikki will come onto this site once more,shouting about how the disabled should be treated like kings and that everyone else is an inferior being to them. Personally,I don't give a d*mn about her brutum fulmen.
P:S:brutum fulmen means a vain and empty threat.

Look,Nikki,just because a person is disabled,does not give them carte blanche to park wherever they want. Would you support disabled people getting away with incest or murder? No,I didn't think so.