We buy large vehicles for a reason

Just read Mike Ps comments that bloke talks total waffle never seems to make a point.

Yeh, I suppose..
Tax hikes might help a bit (but not all school-run 'sheds') round here seem to have convincing/current tax discs (cheap-jack modified Fronteras(?) eps.
What about a bit of 'green' direct action...dink-a 4*4-a day..? Antisocial? maybe, but look at what drives 'em

QUOTE Nellison 27:

"as far as safety I think it's true that 4x4's are safer because people that have a 4x4 tend to be nicer and calmer on the road. We know the 4x4 is big and that it requires more space on the road so we plan in advance for lane changes etc. I don't cut in at last second just to make a exit because I have a car that fits in between most cars. "

You might not, but most do! As these vehicles are so large they either cant see other road users, or with a false sense of security feel they CAN pull out into the next lane without seeing what other road users are coming up behind them.

As someone else has pointed out, the "bull-bar" on the front of the majority of these 4x4's is lethal. Infact a number of motoring television programs have documented this, as the bars are exactly the height of a 3 - 6 yr old child - and if they were hit be the front end of a 4x4, the bull-bar would impact the upper body areas - primarily chest and head ! Fatal.

Anway, this Thread wont change anything, people will continue to buy large 4x4's, mothers will conti9nue to drive their child 500 metres up the road to school, and 4x4's will forever by purchased as a material item / status symbol. Some things will never change.

So macho. Love the kid-killers on the front of pictured prat-wagon. Brill. you can kill whoever you hit and experience so little impact that it won't interupt you texting.
Or is there another reason for keppin/fitting 'bull(sh*t)-bars?

I approve of your stance and most of your actions but this :

"One of them even veered off the road while she was answering her phone knocking an old man to the ground "

is the height of irresponsibility and knowingly conducting a 'phone convversation with someone who is driving is a crime and renders you liable to prosecution, and rightly so.

In the small town where I live we set up a group to protest at the unnecessary use of 4x4s driving through the town, especially by selfish mothers carrying their spoilt and selfish children to school.

We managed to get over 100 activists involved and every day for two weeks we stood at the side of the road and shouted and showed our fists as the drivers of these vehicles passed by. We made banners saying things such as "Jeremy Clarkson loves Robert Mugabe", "4x4? Is that the size of your brain?" and "Your penis looks even smaller now" and waved them in front of them as they drove by.

One of our group managed to get hold of about 12 mobile phone numbers of the worst offenders and we phoned them as they passed by while someone else took photographs of them and then passed them on to the Police. One of them even veered off the road while she was answering her phone knocking an old man to the ground and demolishing a public toilet - she won't be driving her Pathfinder again for a long while. A small victory but important in the overall war.

It's comical that only those that really do need a 4x4 (i.e. those that live in remote areas, those that require access to fields, farms, own livestock etc) have replied justifying their usage of a 4x4. I honesty DO justify you owning/using one of these vehicles.

It's the owner that uses one to take their son/daughter 500 metres up the road to/from school, the housewives that drive them less than a mile into town/the city for some shopping, those males that see them as an ego trip with small d1cks. You also see 4x4's cruising up and down the motorways, often in the outside lane. Totally the opposite terrain to that that these vehicles are intended.

It is these drivers that "should" be posting, with their own defence.... or are they not posting because they have no REAL justification for driving such a large and inappropriate vehicle on the road due to their lifestyle (i.e. the scenarios pointed out in the first paragraph).

As the vehicles are so large, the driver often clogs up the road trying to park. They ARE inconsiderate to other road users - they think they own the road or are somehow more important, as they are higher up and in a bigger vehicle than you - hence often they drive more aggressively too………. Need I go on!

I live in the cities and yes I own a nice 4x4, its the most reliable vehicle I've ever had, especially in the winter with snow and ice. People call these things gas guzzlers and I would have to disagree. Most minivans get between 20-30 the average car gets between 25-30. My truck gets 23-24 in the city and 25-26 on the highway, as far as safety I think it's true that 4x4's are safer because people that have a 4x4 tend to be nicer and calmer on the road. We know the 4x4 is big and that it requires more space on the road so we plan in advance for lane changes etc. I don't cut in at last second just to make a exit because I have a car that fits in between most cars.

The typical urban 4x4 driver's credo is : I drive a large 4 x 4 because I have a lot of money and I want everyone to know it, I also have a small dick/boobs and an inferiority complex and being high up and looking down on the hoi polloi gives me a kick. I could'nt give a toss about other peoples' safety, the planet, or what a prat I look.

Inconsiderate people always tend to buy big because they dont give a dam about anyone else, the real solution to the 4x4 problem is to lobby car manufacturers to make ordinary sized vehicles have 4x4 capability, smaller car less weight less power needed less emissions but still 4x4. people with big chelsea tractors have ruined it for everyone.

Safety?? There are only 2 small SUV and 3 large SUV's in the UK market that have a 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. That compares to the 55 other vehicles that have a 5 star rating.

"Parking is a pain...." because 4x4's are too big for urban roads/car parks and are just unecessary.

It makes me laugh when I see big shiney 4x4's on the roads of our cities that clearly have never been taken off road - not that the drivers would know how to put it into low range gears anyway.

4x4s are the only thing that can stand the hammering of being regularly driven over sleeping policemen and other similar traffic calming measures in Oxford and other towns. There is no replacement for their excellent rugged build quality and toughness. I really really cannot stand the expression Chelsea Tractor. They are excellent for tradesmen, towing car trailers, caravans, boats, horseboxes, etc. utterly brilliant in the countryside. There is no replacement for cubic inches! long live the gas guzzler. And scuse me before you criticise me I should just say that I have a cottage in the Countryside, and I also drive a Volvo estate car. And my neighbour has a dune buggy.