Tricked into fatherhood by devious ex-girlfriend
It riles me that all absent fathers are seen as the bad guy when there are always two sides to a story. My husband's ex-girlfriend dated him to win a bet she had with her friends, she already had a boyfriend and wanted a baby regardless of what she had to do to get it, such as lying about taking the pill. These are all facts she later admitted to.
She got pregnant and when the baby was born he was forced to move into a house with her; a house which he worked nights to pay for and he was only 18 at the time. After a year he left and was refused access to his daughter until a private agreement was made favouring his ex-girlfriend.
Three times he was refused parental responsibility because as far as his ex-girlfriend was concerned the child was hers but when she snapped her fingers he had to go running or she would deny him access.
For 10 years he paid maintenance, bought clothing, gave pocket money and money for school trips; to name but a few of the financial payouts all equating to thousands of pounds without a single argument or complaint.
Then one day he hurt his back at work, had to give up his job and at the same time found out that I was pregnant. When he told his ex that he did not have any money she did not even grant him the grace of a week to sort anything out before going to the CSA.
He is now branded as a deadbeat absent father because he doesn't pay maintenance due to staying at home to look after our baby while I work full time to support us. We would not be able to afford to live if we both worked due to outrageous maintenance payments, child care costs and very little governmental help.
My husband was forced into this situation and has paid for his ex's deceit while she has had an easy ride. Id understand it if he had been stupid and had known he was taking a risk but his only crime was to be young, naive and trusting.
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men do stand up for their familys and yes i am a woman with kids. If u cant afford your kids then u should keep your legs shut.
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Mother of two - 1-Sep-11 00:25
Oh, and just for the record, my partner WAS indeed tricked in to having a baby by his ex.
She failed to get any maintenance from him. Why? Because he has custody.
EPIC FAIL on her part! =D LMFAO!
She failed to get any maintenance from him. Why? Because he has custody.
EPIC FAIL on her part! =D LMFAO!
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achel (In Support of Fathers - 17-Jun-11 00:24
Crawl back in to the cave you crawled out of Florida Girl.
You're just a man-hating feminist who does not deserve even an ounce of respect from anyone. You are SCUM and women like you need to stop being so narrow-minded and pathetic.
And what a surprise, I am a WOMAN who thinks you're nothing but a man-hater! How DARE me....I am not being true to the f**king "sisterhood".
I'm siding with the dads and not waving my bra in the air demanding money money money from my ex. I'm not stopping my ex having access to his son. I'm playing fair and being amicable, ensuring that me and my ex have equal custody of our son. I do NOT expect any maintenance payments from him. Even if he didn't want an active part in our son's life, I don't need to rely on anyone (including my ex) to keep a roof over our heads.... I WORK!! I pay the bills and care for my son and I get greater satisfaction from doing it myself rather than wanting money money money from my ex.
Get your pitch fork out Florida Girl and come after me because the "feminist, man-hating, sisterhood" won't be having me as a perpatrator! =D
You're just a man-hating feminist who does not deserve even an ounce of respect from anyone. You are SCUM and women like you need to stop being so narrow-minded and pathetic.
And what a surprise, I am a WOMAN who thinks you're nothing but a man-hater! How DARE me....I am not being true to the f**king "sisterhood".
I'm siding with the dads and not waving my bra in the air demanding money money money from my ex. I'm not stopping my ex having access to his son. I'm playing fair and being amicable, ensuring that me and my ex have equal custody of our son. I do NOT expect any maintenance payments from him. Even if he didn't want an active part in our son's life, I don't need to rely on anyone (including my ex) to keep a roof over our heads.... I WORK!! I pay the bills and care for my son and I get greater satisfaction from doing it myself rather than wanting money money money from my ex.
Get your pitch fork out Florida Girl and come after me because the "feminist, man-hating, sisterhood" won't be having me as a perpatrator! =D
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achel (In Support of Fathers - 17-Jun-11 00:20
I personally don't like men so they can have this "male abortion" if they want to.
And the irony is......They don't like to wear condoms. And they think it's a woman's responsibility to prevent pregnancies anyways.
So they're just p*ssy cause they HAVE to pay child support. It has nothing to do with the fact that we can get abortions or give birth (ie, have the right to choose).
Good riddance
And the irony is......They don't like to wear condoms. And they think it's a woman's responsibility to prevent pregnancies anyways.
So they're just p*ssy cause they HAVE to pay child support. It has nothing to do with the fact that we can get abortions or give birth (ie, have the right to choose).
Good riddance
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Well Congo you seem to not understand what's going on between the sexes and frankly I don't feel like explaining it. Just google male abortion and that should do it
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It seems to me that both parties were equally irresponsible and should not complain when they must pay the price for their misbehaviour.
The only sympathy I have is for the child of such creatures.and for the State having to become involved at a cost to the taxpayer (and, perhaps in some small measure for the griper).
The only sympathy I have is for the child of such creatures.and for the State having to become involved at a cost to the taxpayer (and, perhaps in some small measure for the griper).
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http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/03/truth-behind-lie-did-catharine.html
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2008/11/woman-hating-misogyny-vs-man-hating.html
And more...
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2008/11/woman-hating-misogyny-vs-man-hating.html
And more...
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Florida girl - 18-Feb-11 03:07
http://www.alicewalkerblog.com/2009/12/letter-to-tiger-woods-from-alice-walker.html
http://www.gaiacharis.com/site/index.php/dangerous-children/88-chapter-6misogyny
and more
http://www.gaiacharis.com/site/index.php/dangerous-children/88-chapter-6misogyny
and more
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Florida girl - 18-Feb-11 03:06
Oh and there's waaaay more.
Here are the links.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/26/13rd-of-women-in-us-military-raped/
http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/maze-of-injustice/page.do?id=1021163
Ladies please read what men are saying. And don't give me that "oh but my yada yada bf/hubby is different" and "oh you're just a man-hater (which I kind of am), but the truth shall be told!!
Here are the links.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/26/13rd-of-women-in-us-military-raped/
http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/maze-of-injustice/page.do?id=1021163
Ladies please read what men are saying. And don't give me that "oh but my yada yada bf/hubby is different" and "oh you're just a man-hater (which I kind of am), but the truth shall be told!!
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Florida Girl - 18-Feb-11 03:05
Hey women guess what men were/are saying about us...and I dare any man to argue against it.
In Hesiod’s words...
‘From her comes all the race of womankind
The deadly female race and tribe of wives
Who live with mortal men and do them harm.’
In Hesiod’s words...
‘From her comes all the race of womankind
The deadly female race and tribe of wives
Who live with mortal men and do them harm.’
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Florida Girl - 18-Feb-11 02:59
No Nock I am not planning on doing it.
And yes those definitions are correct but if you read on it put it in a sentence: "the r*pe of the countryside' next to what you put there as the definition. So NOOOOOO, MEN CANNOT be r*ped by a woman. Only by another man.
And by the way....the mra's put up an agrument saying that to 'protect' women from men who k*ll them because they don't want to be a father, they should have the right to abort their rights and responsibility. But then I fully support a woman k*lling a man if he doesn't want to be a father.
You men are all dumb b*tches
And yes those definitions are correct but if you read on it put it in a sentence: "the r*pe of the countryside' next to what you put there as the definition. So NOOOOOO, MEN CANNOT be r*ped by a woman. Only by another man.
And by the way....the mra's put up an agrument saying that to 'protect' women from men who k*ll them because they don't want to be a father, they should have the right to abort their rights and responsibility. But then I fully support a woman k*lling a man if he doesn't want to be a father.
You men are all dumb b*tches
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Florida Girl - 29-Jan-11 14:55
well this situation is happening to me now and I used protection (condoms are only 99% effective but all I can say is I better not use Trojan again because after last time I must have Spartans down there or something but I digress I still used protection but im being manipulated into it by emotional blackmail and reading most of the comments from the females on this page alone show that what this article says is more common than previously thought I bet Florida Girl has done this or is planning too and http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape says that rape can also be
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: so in the Florida Woman's meaning yes a woman can rape a man and then emotionally blackmail him without any degradation to their own "pure and wholesome" image. btw she is thinking like an adult unlike you who is thinking like a moronic perpetual child
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: so in the Florida Woman's meaning yes a woman can rape a man and then emotionally blackmail him without any degradation to their own "pure and wholesome" image. btw she is thinking like an adult unlike you who is thinking like a moronic perpetual child
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Florida woman you have got to be one of the dumbest female alive. If fatherhood is so important then why do men leave their children so often? You tried your best to make your husband sound like a victim. "He was raped" yada yada yada. First off, the worse form of rape is when a 30 something year old man has sex with a 7 year old girl behind the bushes. In your man's case, I assume, was only rape cause he was underaged. Nothing violent. Nothing forced. Where was his condom? And about her sons, I doubt she thinks like you so she has nothing to worry about. Meaning you can't trick a man into fatherhood so Im sure she'll teach her son about sex. Unlike you. Oh and "forcing" a man to be a father and raping a girl/woman are NOT the same thing. You're a woman so think like one!!
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Florida Girl - 22-Jun-10 16:58
Fatherhood is such an important role, for the child involved most of all, it should NEVER be forced on a man anymore than sex should be forced on a woman. STOP the madness!! It is a violation of a man's basic human rights to FORCE or trick him into being a father. It does no one any good to be that selfish. We ALL, as a society, pay the price for the perpetuation of evil and wrongdoing- don't fool yourself into believing any different.
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Florida Woman - 21-Jun-10 04:41
My husband was forced to be a father and has put up with abuse for the past 13 years from the selfish female who raped him for his DNA. She was on Norplant, for those of you who don't know what this is- it is birth control placed under a woman's skin in her upper arm. When she decided she wanted another baby (she was divorced with 2 already) and wanted to be married to him, she went to her doctor and had a medical procedure to have the birth control taken out. She then had unprotected sex with him and left a note on his truck when she got pregnant. He was shocked! They had dated for 3 years and she had the birth control so....how did this happen?! Ever since then, when he did not marry her- she has made his life HELL. She then went on to have another child with a married man who she does not pursue for child support because his wife would find out! TRUE story!! What kind of person does things like this?!! This is WRONG and she will never tell me that she wants the same thing for one of her 4 boys- I certainly don't want this for one of my sons, brother, friends, etc. This has got to be stopped!!
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Florida Woman - 21-Jun-10 04:32
lol very funny comments woman trick men to get money-enough said!
im on the pill (complete lie 99% of the time) woman leave school/uni/work and think whats the quickest money maker BABYS spend 0.1% of the csa on the baby and the rest on themselves! its very simple and clever.
im on the pill (complete lie 99% of the time) woman leave school/uni/work and think whats the quickest money maker BABYS spend 0.1% of the csa on the baby and the rest on themselves! its very simple and clever.
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Or how about this. Lets say you were driving and and you look around and there are no cop cars ( because the cop was driving a regular car) and so you decided to speed. Then out of the blue a cop (in his regular car in disguise) pulls you over and gives you a ticket. Would you consider that unfair? Did the cop trick you? Obvisouly if you'd known he/she was there you wouldn't have done it. So should you get off scott free? Should the man who impregnated the woman be free?
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Well JoJo how is it fair that he gets off free because you claim that she was irresponsible to bring a child into the world? As if he's not responsible
You claim that we pay taxes for these women and at the same time saying the man shouldn't. How redundant.
If the state should pay for the women then stop complaining
You claim that we pay taxes for these women and at the same time saying the man shouldn't. How redundant.
If the state should pay for the women then stop complaining
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This is your and your husbands life, and just as his ex has made her decisions (to irresponsibly bring a child into unfair circumstances and to lie to your husband and take advantage of his good nature) your husband can make his own too, and if he wishes not to work because - due to the appauling 'mother biased' system at present - it would be to the detriment of the woman and child he has chosen to be with. The state will have to help the ex out now and quite rightly so. Perhaps the state has a lot to answer to ? If they made it harder for such unstable women to make such selfish decisions then they wouldn't have to support so many of them. All this bloody political correctness is a joke. Let her be a problem for the state! then perhaps one day the government will have to readress such issues as the cost of single parents, the rest of us (who lets face it are supporting these women through taxes) have to wait until we are financially secure to have kids! How is that fair?! The current system makes it all too easy for such selfish women who more often than not are incapable of looking after themselves let alone a child, indeed are they capable of teaching their own children what it takes to live a good honest and independent life, thus the cycle continue! As with most issues....I blame the government!
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Being in a similar situation (but more from the start not towards the end) I can certainly see both sides to this argument. No man is entirely blameless in this situation no matter what they say. Young and naive and trusting...I certainly was but it usually takes 2 to create the situation. The area is very grey regarding the ethics of who's fault it is.
In this situation you can't get bogged down about what other people think about you, especially if they have so low morals as to deliberately get pregnant like that.
In this situation you can't get bogged down about what other people think about you, especially if they have so low morals as to deliberately get pregnant like that.
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