The misunderstood youth of today
12-May-2008
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The misunderstood youth of today

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Unfortunately I am at that age (40 plus) and had to endure the nightmare of going to school and doing what I was told whether I liked it or not; of respecting my elders and being thankful if, after doing someone a favour or task, they gave me a reward.

The misunderstood youth of today

I sometimes wonder what sort of person I could have been if I was able to have the kind of parental support young people have today.  For example parents who, instead of saying that if I was punished at school then I probably deserved it and should learn from the experience, would have instead gone down to that school and “sorted them teachers out for picking on me”.

Maybe they would have shown me that the only way to get on in life was to demand respect from others, whilst at the same time showing none back to anyone other than those people to whom I wished to demonstrate how “hard” I was!

Perhaps they would have taught me to demand those goods which other people have, the very goods which those people have worked hard to get and which I should receive free.  After all, it is not my fault that nobody wants to take me on as an employee and pay me the salary I want and they even expect me to get up early just to be on time when I have been out partying all night!

Is that not what the Government is there for - to ensure I have the same chances as everyone else?  It isn't my fault that I have no qualifications and couldn't get on with my teachers.  Dad said he had the same trouble – does that sound familiar?

Then perhaps when you get verbal abuse from youths in the street you will understand that they all need our respect.  We should not invade their space by walking down their side of the street or look at them in the face and we should be more understanding it isn't there fault or their parents that they act as they do.  They were probably picked on and misunderstood by teachers; they all deserve a chance and another and another and another - just like they have always had!

By: Malc, ex-optimist


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Well I must start by saying that you really dont like teenagers do you??
You sound like such a narrow minded, stubborn, sadistic and clueless person!
You obviously slept through your teen years or were locked away in a cupboard somewhere because it seems you have no idea what being a teenager is like?!
I personally dont think it us selfish 'hard' ass' that you are mad at...It looks like your just wound up with jelousy...the fact that the teenagers today can speak open and freely and have more freedom drives you mad...well I tell you what...get over yourself!! and stop trying to push your bull onto other people!!
*Leigh...aka selfish hard ass!!  01-May-2008 11:40

 
The problem with a large portion British youth is that they are British. What they need is sunlight, nice surroundings, and better food.
*jk12  19-Nov-2007 08:00

 
How can you tar every young child with the same brush? No wonder some kids behave bad, respect should be a two way street, from youth to adults but also adults to youth. I am now 19 but the lack of respect shown to me when I was at school was disgraceful.

Just because kids are at school doesn’t mean they can’t be mature enough to be treat like adults?

Some examples of adults targeting kids when it is unfair: One day me and my mates where stood chatting in a shopping center when a security guard approached us and told us we had to move as we cant stand still in a shopping center, fine rules are rules however, 5 yards away where a group of 40+ women doing exactly the same, when questioned on this he said we were kids and should do as we are told. Now if adults respect kids like that what lesson is that for kids?

You shouldn’t tar generations with the same brush, like anything every generation will have some bad spells.

You shouldnt tar generations with the same brush, like anything every generation will have some bad spells.
*Rich  19-Sep-2007 19:40

 
From someone who's been assaulted by a yobbish thug, my default response is to brand all such kids as thugs.

They're not. The trouble is, the decent ones we don't see. We don't see Alex and James (sorry!) screaming in the streets, playing loud music or stealing cars, vandalising or anything else thugs do. We don't becase it's totally anathema to them to behave so, and they're at home, either working or with their families, or, if they're with friends waiting for their folks to collect them.

What we see is a minority of a broad cross section of unpleasant people brought up in a culture of "I want" without the values of "I should earn it." The reason for this IS their parents. These are the ones who are slobbing around living off benefits at other people's expense.

The solution is easy - cut off those benefits! Stop giving these people money and divert it into the police, the NHS, public services for those members of the public who PAY for them.
*Nick  30-Jul-2007 16:56

 
What is being missed is that as the chap above mentioned NOT ALL TEENAGERS are bad!

Those that are these miserable thugs are those we notice. Those are the ones with terrible parents who've never worked a day in their lives, and thus passed those frustrations on to the next generation.

As for our elders being responsible, they're not. The parents/grandparents of those yobs are to blame entirely.
*Nick  24-May-2007 12:47

 
One of the most annoying things that I find about 'older people' (in practice, mainly middle-aged) is their willingness to tarnish an entire generation with the same brush based purely on the high-profile stabbings, crime and such like of a few. I am 16 and would, personally, hate to have to join the army for 2 or 3 years just to supposedly dirve out the yob culture. Why should I compromise my education and, in the long term, career prospects? Many of my year at school (Year 10, incidentally) would, I imagine, feel the same way same way as me.

There are far more decent teenagers around than people realise, its just that the 'youths' (another term I resent) hanging around on street corners are noticed more often. I admit that I go to a public school but several 'chavs' have rolled up at school acting all 'pure-solid hardman' and within a month or so transform into normal, fairly intelligent and hard working people. Many so-called yobs are, in fact, a lot more intelligent than they make out; peer pressure forces them to conform with the unintellgent, grunting norm. All I ask is that you think twice before, ranting and raving, you spout some radical drivel about the state of today's youth.
*A.N. Teenager  05-May-2007 12:04

 
Continued from above...

For those concerned about the quality of the individual that would come out of serving their country in the military, I can only assume that none of you have served or you would not have made such ignorant statements. You gain training, both physical and mental. You gain skills, both technical and life lessons. You gain respect, both for yourself and for others. You learn fairness, truth, patience, kindness, and you gain honor and self-respect. These are things you will not get in today's school systems, from most homes, or from any television show that has caught your eye at the moment. Serving something that is greater than yourself earns you nobility in taking on a task and accepting the responsibility for defending your country and her peoples way of life and liberty.

Ask any employer if they would rather hire a brand new college graduate or something that just spent a few years actually doing the job coming out of the service. Employers take hands on experience over a piece of paper any day of the week.

As with any group of people, we do have our bad apples. We have people that drink, smoke, some do drugs even, but hands down our percentages are lower across the board for bad behavior than general society.
*Morrownc  03-Apr-2007 00:50

 
On the argument of the cost of tens of billions to fullfill the cost of service....you might want to crunch a few numbers together and realize that not only is that figure extreme, but the true cost is much lower than what you ARE paying right now for those people that would serve. How about adding up these costs:
- Medical care for the obese
- Prison space for criminals
- Court costs and legal fees to try the cases
- Welfare costs for those that dont work
- Damage caused by vandals that have nothing better to do with their wasted lives
- Additional police required to patrol areas high with youth crime
- Drug rehabilitaion
- Drinking rehabilitaion
- How many lives would be saved from gang violence

Add all of those up and decide if that is cheaper than the alternative. Basic point of fact, young people need the life lessons and education provided for free in the service. Some of you need to educate yourselves before dishonoring those that have pledged their own lives to protect yours.
*Morrownc  03-Apr-2007 00:49

 
I beat myself thinking that it is something I have done that has caused a pattern of self-destruction (my opinion) in my 15 year old daughter. She has grown up in a very loving family environment, not a day has gone by in her life when I haven't told her how much I love her. But the now lack of respect for her family and herself is depressing and what does a mum do next. I gave her freedom and she abused that.She lies to get what she wants. I am now forced to keep her grounded to keep her safe from the drugs, smoking, sexual behaviour and other negative and lest we forget illegal activities. Her school councillor told me in front of her I have to let her "grow" else she may run away... how helpful! The Police see it as a social problem... She is a minor!!! I don't believe all teenagers are bad, but for those that have got themselves caught up in being cool, or whatever it is that leads them into this...We don't have sufficient help. I don't believe she is mature enough to be left to this, if I could tie her up til she is 25 and hormones have settled down I would. Children have so much opportunity, why do they want to destroy themselves?
*Angst Ma  29-Mar-2007 10:48

 
With whom do we become upset when the inadequacies of Parent's skills individually, and
Societies' failure to make broad and wide-reaching avenues of advance available, for the assistance and support of a beneficial and,(to the youth AND Society), rewarding future?
Given the argument which some have put forward, and many might say cogently, that, if the youth are a disappointment, then the responsiblity must surely rest upon the shoulders of the
Elders of the group. After all, when the Adults, who should be setting an example of proper behavior in Life for Our Youth cannot,1) Measure up to the high ideal they themselves establish for the young, and 2) In most cases, have even given up on passing along the information,(with or without an example), how can we then react with such shock and horror at the ideals and behavior of our youth? Are we Parents THAT OBLIVIOUS to the effects which we ourselves cause?...Or is it just that we do not give a tinker's @#%&*?
*The Literal Logger  06-Mar-2007 21:04

 
I must be quite naive to think that any politician would agree to make what most common folk would think reasonable RULES . national service , Parents banned from abusing teachers, Special detention centres for disruptive kid's, See tonight on the news that an amnesty is being planed for kid with guns? why not build a shooting range and let the young gunmen shoot each other. Those left standing could do the time for the dead ones save a little space in the prisons that are full to bursting with debtors and other non violent persons. Love this Gripe, wonder if the MPs know how to access it? By the way cost of national service who said any thing about paying them ? I got £1-10 shillings a week when I did mine 3 square meals and a bed is payment enough, and think of the clean streets that wont be littered with the remains of a binge up on sat .nights , not to be sexist the same for the girls a pair of good strong army knickers would do no harm at all.
*eddie  23-Feb-2007 20:00

 
People fail to realise that the Social Life of todays youth has changed. We do not have the white dot on the TV or the epilogue now. children of today exist in a family unit in a partial virtual reality. Cyber space tells them they ought to have this they are entitled to that, and they should be respected.
From 1970 to 1995 I worked with a Youth organisation organising activities on most evenings and weekends, along with hundreds of other adultand teenagers. We ran the activities for kids from the age of 5-18.
I stopped in 1995 when I lost all respect for kids and society, with their demands for something for nothing, and the continual not turning up and the competition from the virtual world and TV. I still have a life that is now mine to control, and I work with my children, for our benefit. I would not go back and assist with youth clubs after school activities, or other youth focused schemes, unless it was within a Public School culture. I have now discovered that those that have appreciate your efforts those that have not just abuse the gesture. I realise that that also captures a large group of deprived children who would benefit from after school social activities, but then that is the place of the youth workers in local government.
Hug a Hoodie what will they come up with next, adopt a yob.
*Gandalfql  23-Feb-2007 07:54


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