Not enough local food shopping

Buy local produce it is healthier and keeps British people in jobs.Britain is a desperate state and we are still chucking money at produce that has travelled round the world.

Good point Snob cleaner! I love your way of wording it! What is your email? No not really. Kinda. Whatever.

There is not enough support for local businesses! I am fed up with people not traveling to there local businesses.

How about this for complete "organic" marketing nonsense? On the side of my bottle of Highland Spring mineral water it literally states

"Naturally filtered through land certified as Organic by the Soil Association ..."

Does that mean my water has been filtered through the soil defecated upon by Famous Grouses?

Quite frankly I prefer my mineral water completely inorganic.

@Biologist - the problem with GM food is not the harm it might do to you - but the harm it might do to other species of plants!

Because...

1. Plants cross fertilise each other using the air and/or insects as a vector.

2. Genes are therefore spread between plant species (many of which are very important to us).

3. We don't know what effect these genes will have in other plants and/or the bits of the foodchain that touch them.

4. Genetic variability is important for species to deal successfully with things like changes in climate.

5. GM crops are usually "stronger" and herefore out-compete existing species, which die out reducing variability.

Family/High Street grocers continually moan about supermarkets putting them under pressure. I can remember that before the advent of supermarkets these "small" grocers held the working class to ransom. These people were the ones who had cars and went abroad for their holidays in the fifties. Now the shoe is beginning pinch and they moan like hell.

Biologist......
I largely agree with your comments but would have to say that I do have a few reservations about GM goods. I have no objection to the artificial removal of potentially harmful bi-products/infections etc. I am however concerned about what replaces them. I don't want to be in the position a few years from now when the media is revealing the cases of disease caused by the chemicals etc. used in treating food.
At the moment I buy a mixture of ordinary and organic products (mostly organic). I am happy to add GM products to the list provided that they have been proven to be safe. I don't really want to consume any chemicals but ultimately accept that 'organic' does not always guarantee that I am avoiding them. I've got my own veggie patch now where I can control a lot of what I eat. It is not only stopping me buying treated food. It is also much cheaper and provides good exercise.
I recommend this for all!

Where can I find on the Internet a really cheap supplier of bulk genetically modifed fruit and vegetables? I don't care if my food is GM. The promised revolution in the food industry has been passed over in favour of the fanatics and organics in our society. They, the organic farmers, have spread a completely unwarranted scare story about "Frankenstein Foods!, largely because they simply want to protect their highly lucrative business. The public has been completely duped into believing them. I am all in favour of GM, especially if a way is found to limit the damage produced by bugs and viruses. When digested all food is the same.

People have the right to shop for there goods,any where they choose to.Supermarkets started because there was a gap in the market,like everything else.If no one shopped in them,they wouldnt exist.I shop where I want to, when I want to.I buy from supermarkets and local shops,im quite lucky as I have a wide choice of supermarkets and shops to choose from.Some other people I know are not so lucky,they live in remote places and have to travel quite far to buy all there needed goods.Consumers are more than aware of there options on where to shop,it doesnt take someone like the main griper of this issue to point out the pros and cons etc.Just shop where you want to and do what you want,dont worry what everyone else is doing?????

Snob-cleanser,
I take great offence at your assumption that I think I am better than you. I am not better than anyone (and probablly a lot worse than some). If your only experience of organic produce is some 'East-Ender' (sorry East-Enders - I am but quoting!) trying to make a fast buck, then I'm afraid that you are the one who has been had!
My organic box is predominantly from local farmers and I don't get mis-shapen, sub-standard veggies. I am not of the opinion that the veg I eat is any more nutritious than market or supermarket veg, but it certainly contains less pesticide residue. So that suits me and my family. I don't eat exclusively organic food - my butcher is not organic and I buy from him, but the meat is locally raised and slaughtered in a small abbatoir behind the shop.
I try my best to support local farmers and tradespeople as much as I can. I'm not perfect but I do my best.
I'm sorry if you feel that by virtue of the fact that I do not not buy inhumanely reared and slaughtered meat and out of season fruit and veg (which has probably travelled thousands of miles and is probably months old by the time it hits the shops) you think that I am a snob and I have been had - then that's your choice. I live my life by my choices, I do my best and I support local businesses ( and this means avoiding the supermarkets when possible.)

Snob cleanser


I'll back you up on what you say.

People these days are brainwashed, espeicially about ORGANIC foods. If they didn't use fertilizer, or pesticides, there wouldn't be ANY food to sell.

You might want to read this,

http://altnature.com/library/what_is_organic.htm

Para 3,

The word organic does not mean pesticide-free.

Jod, you've been had!

Your box of veggies is the latest marketing gimmick. Believe you me some East-Ender has seen a way to make a very fast buck. They are appealing to your apparent sense of wanting to buy "Organic". The so-called Organic Revolution in this country is nothing more than one huge, gigantic rip-off. There's NO real nutritional difference between so-called "Organic" foods and "Inorganic" ones. Put a few mis-shapen veggies into your box, add a bit of dirt and you are completely taken in.

You and your friends are simply playing one-up-manship. Your whole post was nothing more than one of saying "I am better than you" because you want to shop this way. You're a snob.

If you want to do your family a real favour, and save money, which you say you can ill-afford, shop around. Try a real street market. It may not be glamorous, but the "market" is probably well-established, and there will be real competition in the supply-chain. You've broken the competitive link by the contract you've made.