Child car seat law ignored

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I have also noticed that the parents in question and their children are nearly all overweight. I thought that cigarettes were often used by some people as kind of appetite suppressant - so what went wrong there?

Andy I totally agree, I sell the CG-Lock which is a unique car safety device for parents with kids sitting in booster seats. Check out how it works http://tinyurl.com/ce2zfw

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After reading your notice I laughed, but the sad thing is you are spot on right.

These laws are geting sillier by the day. honestly its pathetic I am under 5ft but luckily coz I am 14 I dont have to have a booster seat. yay me.

I'm only 5ft 2, some 12 year olds are taller than me, so should I be driving around with a booster seat?

Clearly this differs by country, but The UK Gov states clearly...

"Never carry a baby or child in your lap" - Never carry a baby or child in your lap and do not allow
any of your passengers to do so. Babies and children MUST travel in a child restraint. An unrestrained child will be in serious danger if the vehicle stops suddenly or is in a crash.
"Never use a seat belt for more than one person" - Never use a seat belt for more than one person. Do not travel with a baby or child in your lap sharing the belt. You and the child are likely to be badly hurt if the car stops suddenly or is in a crash. An active frontal airbag is an added danger if you are sitting with a baby or child on your lap in the front passenger seat.

http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/campaigns/childcarseats/pdf/law-leaflet.pdf There may be exceptions but what parent in their right mind would put their children's life in danger?

Manufacturers do not appear to make booster seats that fit the middle back seat. I have 3 small children and can not afford an mpv. The majority of cars middle back seat is narrow. The law says I must have a child seat for all my children. However I have hunted high and low to no avail. has anyone overcome this problem?

help please we cannot seem to find a car seat that fits a zafira???
thanks martyn

Dadof3 - sorry if I upset you, but I just see facts as being, well, facts. Fact is, it IS dangerous to allow children to travel in a car without a child seat. And the middle seat belt in the back IS extremely dangerous and virtually useless as a life saver unless used with a special child seat designed for use with the middle belt - it is just like a hard pad of foam and from memory has two sort of handle things at the side through which the lap belt fits. The lap belts is NOT safe for children at all unless used with one of these special pad thingies. Even for adults the lap belt is very unsafe because in an accident it will rip into your guts, but is better than nothing. For young children it is lethal unless used with a lap belt seat as described above.

I am shocked and appalled by the attitude of DevonGirl and Nikki. So only the smug and wealthy should be allowed to have 3 children? You are the ones with the old-fashioned attitudes - eugenics is an idea that had its day but it was pretty much knocked on the head in the sickening smell of burning flesh in a bunker in Berlin in 1944. How fortunate I am to live in a State where I was not castrated after having two children on the basis that my back seat doesn't have three 3-point restraints.

Oh, and one little point of law here: it is perfectly legal to carry a child with a lap belt in the middle seat if the other 2 rear seats are occupied with child seats. It is clearly not as safe as using a booster seat, but no, Nikki, lapbelts are not virtually useless. They would not be fitted otherwise. FYI the child I "choose" to sit in that position is my eldest, heaviest child, in accordance with government guidelines, because she is the one who would best be protected in that position in the event of a crash, and not because I'd quite like her dead, Nikki.

The fact is that we deal with risks every minute we are alive. My children and I could all be killed in our car, seatbelts or no seatbelts. We could be killed crossing the road, on a train, falling downstairs. Like any other parent, I do my best to avoid or mitigate those risks with the means that I have at my disposal. In fact, I stumbled into this forum looking for car seats that can be fitted using a lap belt. However, I am not going to say that family life must halt until I've saved enough to buy a Zafira or found a seat that fits. Everyone on this forum takes the same approach, or none of you would leave your homes, and Nikki certainly wouldn't go around throwing herself off horses. So let's have less of this holier-than-thou attitude please.

I am shocked and appalled by the attitude of DevonGirl and Nikki. So only the smug and wealthy should be allowed to have 3 children? You are the ones with the old-fashioned attitudes - eugenics is an idea that had its day but it was pretty much knocked on the head in the sickening smell of burning flesh in a bunker in Berlin in 1944. How fortunate I am to live in a State where I was not castrated after having two children on the basis that my back seat doesn't have three 3-point restraints.

Oh, and one little point of law here: it is perfectly legal to carry a child with a lap belt in the middle seat if the other 2 rear seats are occupied with child seats. It is clearly not as safe as using a booster seat, but no, Nikki, lapbelts are not virtually useless. They would not be fitted otherwise. FYI the child I "choose" to sit in that position is my eldest, heaviest child, in accordance with government guidelines, because she is the one who would best be protected in that position in the event of a crash, and not because I'd quite like her dead, Nikki.

The fact is that we deal with risks every minute we are alive. My children and I could all be killed in our car, seatbelts or no seatbelts. We could be killed crossing the road, on a train, falling downstairs. Like any other parent, I do my best to avoid or mitigate those risks with the means that I have at my disposal. In fact, I stumbled into this forum looking for car seats that can be fitted using a lap belt. However, I am not going to say that family life must halt until I've saved enough to buy a Zafira or found a seat that fits. Everyone on this forum takes the same approach, or none of you would leave your homes, and Nikki certainly wouldn't go around throwing herself off horses. So let's have less of this holier-than-thou attitude please.