Employers want too much
Is it only me or are there other people out there that are tired of being exploited by their employer? I have a reasonably good and well paid job in an office and I am contracted to work 37.5 hours per week.
Sometimes you may need to leave early...
Occasionally you accept that a job needs to be finished so you put in a little extra time gratis. It is only fifteen minutes or so here and there, so this isn’t really a big deal as far as I am concerned. Sometimes you may need to leave early for medical appointments etc. so it works both ways and will usually balance out at the end of the month.
Why is it though that my employer is increasingly expecting me to work my lunch, come in early, leave late, and to dedicate my life soul to the company? I was recently called into the director’s office and had my commitment to the job brought into question.
He explained that sometimes he is at his desk until 10 pm. Why do I think I can go at 5 pm? I told him that I think I can go that early because that is when he stops paying me. If he would like me to stay, I will on occasions do so provided he pays me for my time and services. I don't think that is unreasonable, do you?
At the end of the day I want to go home to my family and spend some quality time with them. I do not want to sit at my desk facing his office, afraid of leaving in case I become surplus to requirements!
It's high time my employer realised that his employees do in fact have a life outside work. We do a job to live and not the other way round.
What do you think?
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Don't worry about careers any more. In most firms they no longer exist. Just work your contracted hours.
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Stop Overworking - 20-Nov-11 06:53
Capitalism is the modern form of Feudalism, but without the oaths of fealty, nor the coronation promise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fealty
An oath of fealty is a pledge of allegiance of one person to another. Typically the oath is made upon a religious object such as a Bible or saint's relic, often contained within an altar, thus binding the oath-taker before God.
In medieval Europe, fealty was sworn between two people, the obliged person (vassal) and a person of rank (lord). This was done as part of a formal commendation ceremony to create a feudal relationship.
Fealty and homage are a key element of feudalism.
Should one pay homage to one's employer, as one's lord and master?
IMHO an employer should take an Oath of Office
Coronation Oath
Archbishop of Canterbury: Will you solemnly promise and swear to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand,the Union of South Africa, Pakistan and Ceylon, and of your Possessions and the other Territories to any of them belonging or pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs?
Queen: I solemnly promise so to do.
Archbishop: Will you to your power cause Law and Justice, in Mercy, to be executed in all your judgements?
Queen: I will.
In my opinion there's no justivce given to me by my employer about my working hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fealty
An oath of fealty is a pledge of allegiance of one person to another. Typically the oath is made upon a religious object such as a Bible or saint's relic, often contained within an altar, thus binding the oath-taker before God.
In medieval Europe, fealty was sworn between two people, the obliged person (vassal) and a person of rank (lord). This was done as part of a formal commendation ceremony to create a feudal relationship.
Fealty and homage are a key element of feudalism.
Should one pay homage to one's employer, as one's lord and master?
IMHO an employer should take an Oath of Office
Coronation Oath
Archbishop of Canterbury: Will you solemnly promise and swear to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand,the Union of South Africa, Pakistan and Ceylon, and of your Possessions and the other Territories to any of them belonging or pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs?
Queen: I solemnly promise so to do.
Archbishop: Will you to your power cause Law and Justice, in Mercy, to be executed in all your judgements?
Queen: I will.
In my opinion there's no justivce given to me by my employer about my working hours.
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Lawless and Unfair Britain - 31-Oct-11 13:03
Wash my car, wash his car, wash her car, wash the cleaners car, weed my Garden, everybody else in the office can have holidays, you can not have holidays....
I need you to do these reports for tomorrow, I know its 4 40 Pm but I am sure you will manage, the meetings at 10Am tomorrow so not to push, but hurry up with it I need it last week DONT mess it up.......takes home and does on own laptop until 4AM...
If lucky enough to get a Holiday.....on beach in Spain.......bring bring...bring...squeeze squeeze..dootooootttoooooew bip....(mobile off)...2 hours later mobile on....beep beep oh look I have 17 messages, oh 15 of them are from work...scrolls and reads, I better call in.....Hello Mike you finally decided to return my calls...have you got the company laptop with you??? no sorry just my own, work ones at home...."that will do, you can log into the work network from where you are" I need these 4 reports done for Friday Morning, I know its wednesday afternoon but you have plenty of time....
I need you to do these reports for tomorrow, I know its 4 40 Pm but I am sure you will manage, the meetings at 10Am tomorrow so not to push, but hurry up with it I need it last week DONT mess it up.......takes home and does on own laptop until 4AM...
If lucky enough to get a Holiday.....on beach in Spain.......bring bring...bring...squeeze squeeze..dootooootttoooooew bip....(mobile off)...2 hours later mobile on....beep beep oh look I have 17 messages, oh 15 of them are from work...scrolls and reads, I better call in.....Hello Mike you finally decided to return my calls...have you got the company laptop with you??? no sorry just my own, work ones at home...."that will do, you can log into the work network from where you are" I need these 4 reports done for Friday Morning, I know its wednesday afternoon but you have plenty of time....
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Tadgers e lotofdem - 28-Dec-10 20:11
As well as deliver good customer services and sort out a whole range of problems our customers may have my company has jumped on the sales band wagon! We have to offer on every call possible and if we don't hit our targets then we get warnings. This was introduced about 3 months ago and it's driving us all mad. We do enough work don't we? Also we don't even get a bonus for the sales unless we hit our 'target' which we don't know what our target is until the weeks up and they do the calculations......barmy?
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Dear People!
Maybe employers are upset with us "employees" because we don't "pay them" a salary for the
right to turn up at their work place to "give them " our labour?
Maybe employers are upset with us "employees" because we don't "pay them" a salary for the
right to turn up at their work place to "give them " our labour?
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Its the usual problem, make more profit for the firm so the bosses can reward themselves with a bigger bonus, If you dont do the extra hours they will become childish and act like spoiled brats, if you do work extra time your home life, your health and self esteem suffers. The sooner this country adopts the full measure of EEC rules on employment the better. (max 48 hours in a week, full pay for sickness and better redundancy payouts)
I worked on the night shift for a major engineering company and you couldnt find a boss at 2am because they wouldnt work the same hours as the night shift, the day shift always had management on their backs because they thought they couldnt be trusted.
I worked on the night shift for a major engineering company and you couldnt find a boss at 2am because they wouldnt work the same hours as the night shift, the day shift always had management on their backs because they thought they couldnt be trusted.
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Did you ever state you are not earning what he is, or come to that, doing three people's work, as they have got rid of staff who usually do all the extra's that you are doing now? What a cheek, go home when your hours are up and don't worry. If he sacks you take him to a Tribunal. Good luck
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What does your contract state on the hours you are expected to work. Ask for a copy of the contract and if you are working outside of this then you should just leave. If they want to take action against you then you should ask on what grounds. It will not do much for your career but that depends on how much you want this,
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Oh dear...
"I also go by the theory that most people who work late are because of the following:
1. They are trying to get promoted and do not need to be there
2. They are inefficient and cannot do their job a work days worth of work in a work day"
No...not always...there is a third...staff have been reduced to a skeleton staff (because of financial cut backs). So, in order to keep up with the previous level of department productivity, the staff remaining are now doing those people's jobs/tasks as well...as 'instructed' by those in more senior roles. This is of course counter-productive in the long run, since the increased workload means staying on over your normal hours to get done what needs to be done for the good of whatever company or institution you work for.
"I also go by the theory that most people who work late are because of the following:
1. They are trying to get promoted and do not need to be there
2. They are inefficient and cannot do their job a work days worth of work in a work day"
No...not always...there is a third...staff have been reduced to a skeleton staff (because of financial cut backs). So, in order to keep up with the previous level of department productivity, the staff remaining are now doing those people's jobs/tasks as well...as 'instructed' by those in more senior roles. This is of course counter-productive in the long run, since the increased workload means staying on over your normal hours to get done what needs to be done for the good of whatever company or institution you work for.
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Reading these gripes on evil bosses makes me think that maybe being out of work isn`t so bad after all, as the only time that I`m moaned at is once a fortnight,when I sign on.
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I go by the work to live and not live to work philosophy.
I will tell the Director that I admire them however I believe in a balance in life and having that balance makes a person a better worker.
I also go by the theory that most people who work late are because of the following:
1. They are trying to get promoted and do not need to be there
2. They are inefficient and cannot do their job a work days worth of work in a work day.
So as a result I used to tell my employees that that was how I envisioned it when they were there late..they could not do their work efficiently
I would ask if they needed help because it seemed like they were having trouble doing a job that could be finished in a work day.
I told my staff I placed no positive value when an employee stayed late.
I also told them that if they completed all their work in under 8 hours (they were salary) that they could then go home at 7 hours. Our productivity went up and we had the best stats in the company.
I will tell the Director that I admire them however I believe in a balance in life and having that balance makes a person a better worker.
I also go by the theory that most people who work late are because of the following:
1. They are trying to get promoted and do not need to be there
2. They are inefficient and cannot do their job a work days worth of work in a work day.
So as a result I used to tell my employees that that was how I envisioned it when they were there late..they could not do their work efficiently
I would ask if they needed help because it seemed like they were having trouble doing a job that could be finished in a work day.
I told my staff I placed no positive value when an employee stayed late.
I also told them that if they completed all their work in under 8 hours (they were salary) that they could then go home at 7 hours. Our productivity went up and we had the best stats in the company.
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I hate my boss. He has plagiarised my ideas to his own personal benefit. He has stolen the ideas I confidentially shared with him as his own. My boss has no brains. He is devoid of any intelligence. I had a ground-breaking idea, which I mentioned to him in passing but in confidence.
The idea has now be put into action. It will make the company millions, and I have been shafted.
These bloodsuckers sicken me.
The idea has now be put into action. It will make the company millions, and I have been shafted.
These bloodsuckers sicken me.
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Pirates Everyone Of Them - 1-Jan-10 20:23
Most of modern capitalism is not about creating real wealth for the nations of this world, but is all about Asset Stripping. The workers and their wages are assets to be stripped, and their labours to be exploited. The managers of these forms simply seek to maximise their bonuses by stripping the firms they manage of all their wealth, leaving behind only empty valueless shells.
All wages are on the way down in real values. Hours of work are on the way up. More for less. All in the name of so-called Modernisation.
Read the book Dear Granny Smith: A Letter from Your Postman
All wages are on the way down in real values. Hours of work are on the way up. More for less. All in the name of so-called Modernisation.
Read the book Dear Granny Smith: A Letter from Your Postman
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End of the World - 19-Dec-09 21:26
All employers everywhere...You are evil and you really must die.
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Howsoonisnow? - 19-Dec-09 18:17
In Das Kapital Marx comments that 'capital is dead labour which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labour'. He also comments that the prolongation of the working day 'only slightly quenches the vampire thirst for the living blood of labour', and that 'the vampire will not let go while there remains a single muscle, sinew or drop of blood to be exploited'.
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You're absolutely right!! The world is full of greedy employers now days. They want increasingly more excessive hours from employees, yet seem to have no qualms about paying them as little as possible! Globalisation sucks, the rich seem happy to get richer whilst trampling on the honest, hardworking minions below. If your boss asks you again 'why should you leave at 5:30, while I'm here until 10pm', bring up the subject of how much he is paid in comparison!
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You're absolutely right!! The world is full of greedy employers now days. They want increasingly more excessive hours from employees, yet seem to have no qualms about paying them as little as possible! Globalisation sucks, the rich seem happy to get richer whilst trampling on the honest, hardworking minions below. If your boss asks you again 'why should you leave at 5:30, while I'm here until 10pm', bring up the subject of how much he is paid in comparison!
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I am evil, you are evil, even Mother Teresa was evil. All humanity is evil. But my present employer is the most evil one I have ever worked for, ever! He wants more, not for our joint gain, but more just to satisfy his greed for more, more, more and more. There is no limit to his greed. The greed of others in his same class and league drives him to want more. He is evil. His class is evil. The world run by such individuals is evil. They are relentless. There is no limit to how much they will exploit others in their game of acquisition.
These parasites will eventually suck the world dry. They are vampires of the Capitalist system. The grave is the only place for them. I wish them eternal death. But above all I despise all of you who allow these creatures to exist and flourish. They exist because evil people like you allow them to exist.
These parasites will eventually suck the world dry. They are vampires of the Capitalist system. The grave is the only place for them. I wish them eternal death. But above all I despise all of you who allow these creatures to exist and flourish. They exist because evil people like you allow them to exist.
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World of The Damned - 15-Nov-09 07:55
aah thingy thingy eek lol somebody do something.....
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um creepy religious crap, you sound evil so you do, get back from me get away back from whence you came thing
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