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Smokers have rights too

Smokers have rights too and I'm fed up with the way we are now seen as second class citizens.  As you may know, smoking in Scotland has now been banned.  We are all pushed outside with little facilities to shelter ourselves in.  Non-smokers claimed that they had nowhere to go to because if they went into a pub they would die several years later because of the inconsiderate people around them.

Come on, it's not like it's a surprise that people are going to be smoking there.  But this is not the worst part of it.  No, it’s actually the government that I really want to have a gripe at.  For example forcing this ban on local businesses, I don't see as fair at all!

Who are they to interfere with how a person should run their own lives.  Why not offer incentives to become no smoking venues, grants for better ventilation.  I'm sure that the government could do this just by cutting down their spending in other areas.

Smokers have rights too

The adverts they place on the TV portray people who smoke as penniless, clumsy lepers to be avoided at all costs.  After all who would want to be around us smelly, grubby people?  I feel that us smokers are the easy targets, after all it's easier to get votes by banning smoking rather than preventing knife or drug related crimes.

Well, for all the non smokers out there here's my conclusion.  I smoke and I like to smoke.  I also know that it causes cancer, I am not stupid.  Now we can live in a world where groups are segregated even more and we can all sit in pubs which smell of sweat, vomit and urine.  Ah, the great country that is Scotland.

By: ScubaSteve

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Don`t worry folks. Mike P`s just a little disorientated, having moved across from another gripe whingeing page. It may be that he enjoys dining in Dutch bars, although I wouldn`t speak too highly of the cuisine.

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Englishman - 17-Oct-11 14:35 

I think I have worked it out, is it because as usual MikeP is lying? and think he is being slightly amusing by using a Steve Martin joke that wasnt even that funny 25 years ago.

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Get a life - 9-Jun-11 13:46 

Well would you clarify it then please because I don't understand where you're heading with it.

And just to point one thing out. It isn't air you have to breathe it is air you choose to breathe. You're every bit as capable of moving as they are!

I was in a pub garden a couple of weeks ago in an area marked 'smoking area'. I had some person moan at me about my smoking and would I go elsewhere. I said no! It's their problem, not mine. I'm not smoking inside, I'm not smoking in the general vacinity of a non smoking area even. I accept that non-smokers don't want to breathe smoke filled air but they cannot claim a monopoly of all public places just because they don't partake.

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Freddie - 9-Jun-11 12:36 

Freddie P:
I'm not accountable to you or anyone else, but all your assumptions are wrong, so get the thinking cap on and see if you can work it out.

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MikeP - 9-Jun-11 10:00 

MikeP....where are you eating where this is happening to you? It isn't in the UK is it!
This couldn't happen to you in the UK these days so you are either making reference to another country, hanging on to old issues from a few years back or, you're making it up!

Can you clarify which it is please?

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Freddie - 9-Jun-11 08:43 

And when I am stuck next to snobs like MikeP, I politely remind him that he could have gone to another restaurant if he despises us smokers.

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Anonymous 2.0 - 8-Jun-11 16:32 

MikeP, thank god you corrected that breath typo, the world would have spun off it"s axis otherwise!

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anon - 9-Jan-11 19:27 

Big D : Spot on!

REPOSTED TO CORRECT TYPOS

When I am seated near people breathing their filthy fumes over me I go over and point out politely to them that they are poisoning the air I have to breathe and the food I am eating. Quite often this does the trick. If they become obnoxious I ask them if they would mind if I stood and farted over their food whilst they eat.

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MikeP - 9-Jan-11 18:44 

Big D : Spot on!

When I am seated near people breathing their filthy fumes over me I go over and point out politely to them that they are stop poisoning the air I have to breath and the food I am eating. Quite often this does the trick. If they become obnoxious I ask them if they would mind if I stood and farted over their food whilst they eat.

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MikeP - 9-Jan-11 18:43 

"ScubaSteve" Smokers are second class citizens. Nobody has the right to inflict there filthy habit on other people. I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if I rang your door bell and then entered your house with my dog so that he could take a dump in your front room and then finished off by sprinkling asbestos dust liberally around? No thought not. As far as I'm concerned smoking is ok as long as you confine it to your own house. Anywhere else and you are not only spreading your smoking filth around but are puting other peoples health at risk and that is not acceptable.

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Big D - 9-Jan-11 18:27 

I used to have a sign in my office which said :

"I probably enjoy s3x more than you enjoy smoking
As I don't scr3w in your office, I ask you not to smoke in mine."

In these more enlightened times, smoking in offices in most countries is no longer allowed.

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MikeP - 8-Jan-11 17:04 

You talk of choice, you choose to smoke, but equally do not non-smokers and in particular children have the right not to breath in your smoke? Smoke by it's very nature cannot remain in one place but moves around, any settle around anyone or anything in it's path. This includes those who wish to take care of their health, those who have breathing problems, children and babies and lets face it anyone who does not wish to smell like an ashtray. You talk about your rights, but what about other people's rights. If I took up spitting as a habit you would consider it (quite rightly) offensive if I spat out and all my spittle landed on you. Unlike your smoke, my spit would not harm you but it would be inconsiderate and disgusting if I did. Smoke, puff away like a chimney if you wish like you say it's your life but when it interefers with other people's as smoking often does then it no longer remains your choice.

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Pinksugarmouse - 8-Jan-11 16:29 

We are the ones who vote polititians into office, and then let them bring in these stupid laws. MPs dont really care what we think, and will continue to carry on doing what they do best, slapping us down at the slightest hint of rebellion. The smokers of this country should get together and tell them to relax the law or you will be voted out, after all we put them there to work for us,not us for them. and we should keep on doing this until they take notice. They are public servants, they seem to conveniently forget this fact.

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Paul - 5-Jan-11 13:19 

Steve, probably no one here cares if you heighten the chances of giving yourself cancer by smoking. But we don't want you to aid in our developing it because of your ignorance, apathy, stupidity or inconsideration.

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William - 4-Jan-11 17:55 

The ban on smoking in public places is now in force, and this gross and unnecessary attack on individual choice and freedom seems to have slipped by relatively peacefully, which is no surprise really - we tolerate unrestricted invasion from other countries, we accept filthy, lethal hospitals, we allow our most intelligent young people to train as doctors and then go straight on the dole, we have ruthless lunatics trying to blow us up but are forbidden to call them what they are in case they are offended, our schools are rife with PC propaganda and no longer attempt to teach genuine knowledge and skills - so why the hell should we get aerated about a smoking ban?  Like so many other pieces of "accepted wisdom" these days, the smoking ban is based on lies. Not just little fibs like "passive smoking is bad for people" which is unproven but might easily be true, but shocking great lies that boldly proclaim the exact opposite of the truth, like "Alzheimer's is linked to smoking"!

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DSG - 13-Nov-10 16:56 

You clearly are stupid! You know it causes cancer, however you still smoke!

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Karl - 18-Oct-10 21:15 

I gave up smoking sometime ago, but I agree that it should be the persons choice not dictated too!!!!

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delboy - 9-Jul-10 20:12 

Smokers DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS associated with smoking. Smokers are people (only just) and they have the same rights as non-smokers. There are NO rights associated with smoking because it is harmful to innocent people.

If you smoke, you most likely started smoking before you were at a legal age of consent. In other words you are a victim of an activity which should be criminal in a responsible society (distributing cigarettes).

Try to give it up because it's bad for you, you stink, your breath is rancid, your clothes smell like filth and you are hard to like this way. And you are going to die a vile death whereby you lose every shred of human dignity before you slowly go. Regrets...you'll have more than just a few.

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Shaft the tobacco companies! - 14-Apr-10 13:48 

Britain has ended up as a nation of unthinking cretins because of overlegislation by the nanny state. The Health and Safety brigade, to mention just one aspect of life on the little island, has created a race of people so paranoid that they cannot think beyond the consequences of their actions and are afraid to do anything.

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MikeP - 9-Apr-10 16:33 

It's illegal to do anything anymore in Britain. It is the most horrifically fascist country in the world now. I hate everyone there. I despise the corrupt Governments, and business. I hate the exploitation by employers and landlords. I despise the incompetence of local governments. But above all I consider the smoking ban and the proposed controls on drinking as completely beyond understanding.

I think for myself.

Britain does not let its citizens think for themselves.

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Smokeroo - 9-Apr-10 16:12 

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