Fed up with Lorries causing mayhem
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There's no easy or polite way to say this and I fear it may offend the innocent, but it's got to be said – Lorry drivers can be a real nuisance on the road. I hate them for the size of their machines and the reckless way in which they thunder through my village causing children and animals to flee into gardens or the post office for safety. I hate the sun-browned arm protruding from the window and the fag hanging from the mouth as they dictate the rules of the road to others on the highway. |
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And even on straight, wide roads they are still at it. There they are slinging their huge lumps of metal from lane to lane causing mayhem for other users. How many times are you happily driving along in the outside lane of…say, the A1 doing 70mph when everyone has to jam on their anchors because some lorry driver up ahead has pulled out into the overtaking lane doing 50 or 60mph. Not only that but they frequently do it going up a hill and the result - a queue behind him creeping along for miles and miles until the selfish individual has pulled back in. There are even worse examples. How many of us have had to endure endless delays because a lorry has jack-knifed or even more bafflingly, shed its load? How can it do that? A straight motorway or dual carriageway can surely provide no reason for this to happen, unless of course the driver has failed to secure the load properly or has done something completely stupid with the vehicle. We need to be free of this lorry tyranny and I have a solution. Permit them to use the main roads only between 8pm to 8am or deny them the right to overtake. How about fining them for the inconvenience they cause to other road users. Every jack-knifed lorry or spilled load should attract a fine of £100 to be paid to each of the first 100 cars delayed by the incident! Perhaps that might then make our road networks places that function smoothly. By: Aardvark |
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What about car drivers who join the motorway at 40mph and think when they put their indicator on they have god given right to move on to the carrage way and everone else should move for them its a 70 mph road speed up you can go faster than trucks so do it and the silly thing about it is that cars leave the motorway at 80mph
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And the whole idea of Lorry drivers driving only at night not working......
Works fine in Australia.
Works fine in Australia.
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IceCoolPsycho - 5-Nov-11 19:10
All you lorry drivers complain that the service provided is a necessity otherwise shops would not get food etc.
Lol. Years ago it was all done by freight on the trains.............
Lol. Years ago it was all done by freight on the trains.............
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IceCoolPsycho - 5-Nov-11 19:06
Yea yea yea, we have heard it all before. " don't forget you wouldn't have food in the supermarkets,clothes on your back, beer in the fridge...bla bla bla if it wasn't for us wonderful lorry drivers". What a croc. If YOU didn't do it, then someone else would. It's not like you need a degree to drive for a living, anyone could do it. It makes me laugh hard when a trucker refers to his 'career'. Haha. Stop the lorries overtaking, make it illegal that's what I say. I bet there is millions of pounds of fuel wasted each year in the U.K, as a direct result of selfish lorry drivers slowing everyone down. At least when I overtake it only takes me seconds, not minutes. And that's not even mentioning the tailgating. I've seen comments like, " If we could overtake there would be a long line of lorries in lane 1, good look if yours is the next exit", to that I say, don't tailgate each other then! Just amble along in your miserable job, and let us high earners carry on with our lives in peace.
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Ardvark , what a bellend most lorry accidents are cause by stupid car drivers in the first place, come and have a go your self & se if you are better.....
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A lorrydriver - 22-Aug-11 21:29
The speedo must be bust on my Ford fusion, I am constantly on the M62 & M606 & have never experienced a lorry other than an Eddie Stobart going slower than 60mph when traveling in normal conditions. Where should I go to have my speedo checked?
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is this person for real??? get a life you freak and think about what your doing day to day and how you achieve it! nothing would be possible without us on the road. your quick dash to the shops! your filling up for fuel! your quick drink in the pub or hold on your post in the morning yes all done by lorry drivers and there big machines! do you wish to do the task you inconsiderate fool.
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I cant belive the childish letter fro ardvark that ive just read,if it wasnt for lorry drivers driving these 44 tonners no provisions would be in the shops or even his local supermarket.also ,why should lorry drivers become nocturnal just because this idiot has got a hang up about lorries?perhaps he needs to get professional help to come out of the closett.none of us want to drive these things at all but its a fact that we all have to do something to pay the bills.look at it from our point of view,ask yourself how many times each day do we see idiot car drivers making stupid mistakes time after time?we class 1 lorry drivers have trained and taken the strictest and hardest driving test in the modern world.WE ARE CLASSED AS PROFFESSIONAL DRIVERS.i bet the person who wrote the article that ive just read wouldnt even get passed the heavy goods high way code.my message to you is grow up ,get a life or starve to death when all lorry drivers go on strike and you cant get nothing off the shelf at asda.lorry drivers are the inferstructure of this country you fool.il sign this with my name.a real man isnt ashamed or embarrased to identify hiself.WHO ARE YOU ARDVAR ?.........EXACTLY...
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ROBERT LINEKER - 4-Dec-10 17:20
I cannot even start to believe the ignorance of the person whos comments are completely untrue. How many endless hours do lorry drivers have to sit in traffic jams as a result of recklessness of inexperienced car drivers only to have there daily driving allowance of 9 hrs used up. hence having to pull over and sleep in a layby until they are legally allowed to drive again the next day. Next time you are shopping for everyday essentials, stop, think and realise how the goods you buy actually arrived on the shelf before having a gripe at lorry drivers,
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I know a number of lorry drivers who work long, hard hours and are often away from families for lengths of time. It can be an utterly thankless task.
However, I have also encountered very dangerous lorry drivers - one who actually drove me into another vehicle by swerving into my lane as I was overtaking! I was lucky to be alive.
There are always two sides to every story. SOME lorry drivers are arrogant, selfish and dangerous. But not all and it is unfair to suggest so.
However, I have also encountered very dangerous lorry drivers - one who actually drove me into another vehicle by swerving into my lane as I was overtaking! I was lucky to be alive.
There are always two sides to every story. SOME lorry drivers are arrogant, selfish and dangerous. But not all and it is unfair to suggest so.
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I've had a long day but after Reading this I had to chuckle. Bet you drive a BMW laptop on in passenger seat, and probably do your make up in the mirror as you are a rite tart. How many cars will stop and let a hgv out at a junction? Not very many, as it's beat the lorry syndrome. How many car drivers keep pulling up a lorrys tail when reversing? Hence can't see my mirrors I can't see you. And finally your probably the first up to the shops on Saturday to see what mr lorry driver has delivered for you. We are not all bad drivers but as said in previous posts car drivers can't wait behind a lorry as he got to show off with his 4 soup cans of his exhaust as he cuts us up across chevrons. :-)
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permit them to use the roads at certain times, lol would you be prepared to pay extra costs for your goods, As for jackknifing on a straight road,It is usually caused by motorists changing lanes at the last moment , usually to get to the slip road that you nearly missed and sod any other poor soul that is around you. Remember that hgv drivers spend over a thousand pounds of their own momey to gain their licences, and take a 2 hour practical test ( not a piddely 20 minute one to drive a car) also the hgv test is equal tothe advanced motorest test. Also they have to undertake competence tests every so often. Pity that cars drivers do not have to take refresher courses, The roads would be empty. And just so you know that I know what I am talking about . I have passed tests for mopeds/ cars/ trucks/ and motorcycles.thankyou and all nvq's and competence courses. as well as training for construction and use regs. of which the great british motorist would not have a clue where to start . By all means have your gripe . but pleases read up on the subject you are griping about
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if only company rep had tried harder at school then he may just understand complex issues. By the way company rep, how many points do you have?
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Personally I hate having anything in front of me but maybe that because of seen the results of shunts before the Fire Brigade have cut the body out and realistically I know I don't 100% concentrate for all the 7-10 hours I drive 5 days a week. You also forget HGVs will travel far further and many drivers are under the pressure of timed deliveries thanks to the cost of land in the UK which stops all large companies from stockpiling goods leading to JIT. Driving for a living is totally different to driving on holiday, we can't just bimble along and the distances are far greater. Most car drivers find a 2 hour drive long without stopping!
The Journey time travel results on HGV overtaken bans have shown HGVs overtaking are not causing delays so I fail to see what your point is. If you want to travel faster then campaign for the DSA to include a Motorway module in lessons, if people used the motorways as designed, it would have the same result as building 800 miles of new motorway network!!
The Journey time travel results on HGV overtaken bans have shown HGVs overtaking are not causing delays so I fail to see what your point is. If you want to travel faster then campaign for the DSA to include a Motorway module in lessons, if people used the motorways as designed, it would have the same result as building 800 miles of new motorway network!!
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Class 1",
I think you have missed my point. You a correct in saying that to mechanically govern a HGV to hold an exact 56 mph would be very difficult to achieve. The point I am trying to make here is this. On my journey to work everyday I am more than happy to follow any HGV at about 56mph as this is a nice steady pace as I find this speed quite relaxing. Now because I have the ability to go up to 70mph does not mean that I have to pass the HGV in front. Think of it like you are following a friend on holiday, your friends in front and you are happy to follow him, no problem, (done that many times going on holiday as a group of cars). In the real world of HGV it is just put your foot to the floor and when you start to climb your vehicle slows, and on the decent you wind it up to whatever is available. Most HGV,s travel totally independent of one another but from time to time you will find a couple of guys from the same company and what do they do, they follow one another, the very thing I described earlier. Now I come back to the point I made in my first post, if all HGV,s had the ability to do 56mph up hill as well as on the flat (i.e. a decent power to weight ratio you could all drive in the " follow my mate mode".
I think you have missed my point. You a correct in saying that to mechanically govern a HGV to hold an exact 56 mph would be very difficult to achieve. The point I am trying to make here is this. On my journey to work everyday I am more than happy to follow any HGV at about 56mph as this is a nice steady pace as I find this speed quite relaxing. Now because I have the ability to go up to 70mph does not mean that I have to pass the HGV in front. Think of it like you are following a friend on holiday, your friends in front and you are happy to follow him, no problem, (done that many times going on holiday as a group of cars). In the real world of HGV it is just put your foot to the floor and when you start to climb your vehicle slows, and on the decent you wind it up to whatever is available. Most HGV,s travel totally independent of one another but from time to time you will find a couple of guys from the same company and what do they do, they follow one another, the very thing I described earlier. Now I come back to the point I made in my first post, if all HGV,s had the ability to do 56mph up hill as well as on the flat (i.e. a decent power to weight ratio you could all drive in the " follow my mate mode".
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Oh and also HGv overtaking bans on motorways including the M42 have resulted in journey time either not changing, increasing or saving a massive 6 seconds!!!
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"the Vicar" unless tires are made from something that cannot wear down and caliberation becomes perfect it won't happen. You can't cabilerate something with no tollerence........well you could in theroy but the costs would be huge. Also unless all HGVs had something over 600bhp, laden trucks will always slow on hills. Time for a rethink maybe............?
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Firstly without getting all hot under the collar about lorries and as a regular user of the M5 and M42 I would like to put in my five pennith. It is quite obvious that one of the biggest problems that upsets most car drivers is the obsession that lorry drivers seem to have of the need to pass any other lorry that does notch match there speed. In reality you find one lorry gaining on the next lorry in front to the tune of 1 or 2 mph and will not keep pace but will insist on overtaking which could take quite a considerable time thus clogging lane two. This I am sure could be avoided if all lorries had the ability to maintain a constant speed but because some have a much better power to wieght ratio than others, some lorries struggle particularly when climbing hills.This has the reverse effect when going down hills where I have found certain lorries touching nearly 70mph. If all heavy goods vehicles were able to maintain 56mph constantly and run in "Convoy" most of the frustation I am sure would be resolved.
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Firstly truck drivers don't all fit the stereotype that you suggest. As a lorry driver myself I'll explain some things for you.
Some lorry drivers: obey the highway code, use indicators, don't cut up other drivers to get in front, drive at proper speed i.e not too slow and not too fast, do not speed up while being overtaken to prevent the other vehicle from overtaking, don't cut you up to turn off at a slip road at the last possible minute even though there's plenty of space behind to turn off safely, don't suddenly move into the braking zone of a lorry, don't drive cars at 50mph-56mph on motorways causing the restricted lorry driver to keep changing his/her speed as they cannot overtake because you will speed up to 56mph when they try to, don't park so lorries cannot get by, fire engines are lorries too!
Lorries weigh up to 44tons and need more space to brake and manoeuvre,are restricted to 56mph, cars please do not do the same speed on motorways. On slip roads remember YOU are coming onto the motorway so YOU need to look and adjust YOUR speed to fit in, the lorry may not be able to move into lane 2 for you and he certainly cannot drive any faster for you to fit in behind.
Loads can be shed even on straight roads simply because no matter how tight you strap the load it WILL move and 'settle' during transit causing straps to loosen. The loads I take are a mixture of items, differing in weight, size and density to be delivered in perfect condition with no damage, the weight to be distributed correctly and secured only by several straps 2 inches in width on an open flat bed lorry, even with 12 years experience the complexity and variety of loads will still cause some to come loose no matter how tight it is strapped.
Car drivers don't understand what its like to drive a lorry because they've never done it.
If people behaved in life as they do in there cars it would be a violent world.
Some lorry drivers: obey the highway code, use indicators, don't cut up other drivers to get in front, drive at proper speed i.e not too slow and not too fast, do not speed up while being overtaken to prevent the other vehicle from overtaking, don't cut you up to turn off at a slip road at the last possible minute even though there's plenty of space behind to turn off safely, don't suddenly move into the braking zone of a lorry, don't drive cars at 50mph-56mph on motorways causing the restricted lorry driver to keep changing his/her speed as they cannot overtake because you will speed up to 56mph when they try to, don't park so lorries cannot get by, fire engines are lorries too!
Lorries weigh up to 44tons and need more space to brake and manoeuvre,are restricted to 56mph, cars please do not do the same speed on motorways. On slip roads remember YOU are coming onto the motorway so YOU need to look and adjust YOUR speed to fit in, the lorry may not be able to move into lane 2 for you and he certainly cannot drive any faster for you to fit in behind.
Loads can be shed even on straight roads simply because no matter how tight you strap the load it WILL move and 'settle' during transit causing straps to loosen. The loads I take are a mixture of items, differing in weight, size and density to be delivered in perfect condition with no damage, the weight to be distributed correctly and secured only by several straps 2 inches in width on an open flat bed lorry, even with 12 years experience the complexity and variety of loads will still cause some to come loose no matter how tight it is strapped.
Car drivers don't understand what its like to drive a lorry because they've never done it.
If people behaved in life as they do in there cars it would be a violent world.
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mr company rep " I bet you,er a right swiss tony on the road! you
just can,t get it together!!
just can,t get it together!!
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