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Child Maintenance: Some judges are incompetent

What do you think?  Judges - They need to be jailed or made to cough up the readies to make up for their general incompetence and the mistakes they make.

I have been divorced for 4 years, was married for 14.  My ex-wife worked in a travel agency when we met and has never had a career of her own.  I work in sales so no schmoozing or entertaining has ever featured in my home life.  She has never been instrumental in any achievements I have made in my job.

As a dad Ive always participated fully at all stages with the children, from night-time feeds to nappy changing and entertaining them.  When we parted the children were 13 and 7.  She kept the house, the contents and the car as well as the children having residence although full access for me was assumed.  This was all arranged between us.  I also offered to pay 1000 per month (way over the amount demanded by the CSA!) for child maintenance.  I have never failed to meet my obligation even though when I moved out I had no job.

At no time have I considered it my duty to pay her any spousal maintenance.  She gave up nothing when she married me.  In fact, she was 28 and had not progressed in any sort of career she worked in a travel agency.  She is fit and healthy and at 46 could easily do a full time job, but chooses not to.  She has equity of about 90k in the house plus savings and I have nothing saved as I pay it all to her already.

Recently I wanted to formalise the money side of things with my ex because Ive met a new partner and weve bought a house together.  I would like to pay my daughter her share of the child maintenance directly to her when she starts university and the same for my son when he reaches 18.  Remember Im still paying 1000 a month, though it is becoming difficult now that Ive got a new mortgage and other outgoings.  My salary is not huge and relies to a great extent upon bonuses earned by me and not guaranteed.

Judges, laywers, courtroom The judge at the county court decided to my horror and utter disbelief that I should reduce the amount of child maintenance I give for the children, give it to my ex wife instead and add another wad on top. When I asked how long this would be for, his answer was that it would be for life!  So, the situation if I go along with this is that I will now work my whole life and she will be able to sit on her backside and treat her new boyfriend to a good time on MY MONEY!

The injustice of it burns, but even more galling is the fact that the judge (who went to the wrong city at the start of the day delaying the proceedings what sort of confidence does that instil in you?) took absolutely no account of my expenses/mortgage/bills, and my right to a decent life as well.

Now, I realise the judiciary of this fine country are virtually infallible, but after just 10 minutes with the paperwork and without asking any questions at all, this geriatric twerp felt suitably confident in his own brilliance to make this most asinine pronouncement.

His decision was one that will condemn me to penury for ever; prevent me interacting with and treating my children and also bring an end to all activities that we can enjoy together including sport and training etc, etc.  Its outrageous that he can smugly dismiss my arguments without recourse to any higher authority.  The only option left is to take it all the way to court and find the vast sum of money that a trial will cost.

Judges need to drop the patronising attitude, become accountable to the public and suffer consequences of their actions just like anyone else in society.  This particular judge is a ridiculous old fool and needs to be pensioned off, or better still contribute some of his fat pension fund to the victims of his outrageous and smug incompetence!!!!

By: Aardvark

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Oh come on! You don't expect me to know that surely. At least be a bit serious. I'm beginning to worry about you.
It is universally believed that Al Qaeda will continue to attack the western world. If you don't think they will and are a spent force then I'm pretty certain that you're in the minority on this one.
For the record, I also have no idea what the 'real IRA' are planning either but it doesn't mean they're a spent force.
If you want to believe there is no threat to the western world from Islamic extremists then that's you're prerogative. I'll come back to you after the next incident or foiled plan.

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Freddie - 21-Jun-11 20:53 

"are continually,planning ways to attack the Western world"
Really? What are these "plans" then,Freddo?

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DSG - 21-Jun-11 17:59 

No, not at all. I just have a life away from here and don't spend every minue wondering what somebaody has written now!
I always accept the truth, the problem being that you haven't spoken any. If you really believe that Al Qaeda is a has-been organisation then you're mad, they're not! They have just elected a new leader and are continually planning ways to attack the western world.
I do agree that the previous government eroded civil liberties. There's no doubt about that, but I blame the idiots that voted them in for so long.

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Freddie - 21-Jun-11 08:02 

So,Freddo,I see you've not replied back to my earlier post. Perhaps you stubbornly refuse to accept the truth,eh? Or perhaps you just cannot believe that the pigs could barely bring down a drug dealer,let alone a terrorist organization. [This sentence is directed at Freddie,not Fred E].

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DSG - 20-Jun-11 19:49 

The amazing thing is that there is no channel to make complaints against judges at all. I understand that there would be lots of complaints from people that lost a judgement but when the behaviour of a judge is really appalling you'd think you could complain about their behaviour. Someone could then spot when a pattern of poor performance was emerging.

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Fred E - 19-Jun-11 17:47 

P:S: Please stop it with the blatant sarcasm. It makes you sound like an insecure moron who cannot finish a post without slandering another poster. But didn't we all know that already [?]

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DSG - 19-Jun-11 00:43 

Yes, Al-Qaeda are a has-been terrorist organisation because their job is already done. They're the ones who forced our government to bring in a raft of "anti-terrorist" measures that were used not for terrorism,but mostly for spying on people to make sure they have "nothing to hide". As Hitler puts it:

"The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed"

This remind you of a certain authoritarian government?

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DSG - 19-Jun-11 00:40 

"Has Been Terrorist Organisation"

Well, I'm glad we can all sleep safely in our beds now that you've declared them to no longer be a threat! Would you please let the Government know because I don't think they're aware of this pearl of wisdom!

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Freddie - 9-Jun-11 08:36 

The police could single-handedly bring down Al-Qaeda Freddie? You obviously don't know the difference betweeen bringing down your not so friendly neighbourhood drug dealers and a has-been terrorist organization.

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DSG - 8-Jun-11 16:28 

Well at least someone spotted it even if he didn't. I do think it and I won't retract it. The police could single handedly bring down Al Qeade (spelling?) and still be branded as useless by some.

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Freddie - 17-May-11 21:22 

And Boblet IS right,your defence of the "wonderful" police force is appaling. You're going to call me a bigot now,aren't you Freddie?

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DSG - 17-May-11 16:57 

P:S:Turns out I made an error in my paragraph.I meant to say nice instead of nie.

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DSG - 17-May-11 16:53 

It's nie to know that Freddie has resorted to calling Boblet a "bigot" just because he disagrees of your view of the "wonderful" police force in this country.

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DSG - 17-May-11 16:52 

The hidden message? Come on Freddie. I didn’t even sus that people posted under other names until Mp used one to pat himself on the back. Paranoia is not one of my strengths, so I will not comment.

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Boblet - 17-May-11 14:07 

Boblet Is Going Over the Top! Can anyone else see the hidden message :-)

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Freddie - 16-May-11 22:01 

Sorry folks "It is human it err" I forgot to target my last arrow it was aimed at Freddie

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Boblet - 16-May-11 17:22 

I ignore you & the other twerp mikep’s post’s in the main but it irks me sometimes when you post particularly inept tripe. “A little knowledge can be dangerous” Your knowledge of British law seems rudimentary. You say because I have been in court on occasions I am not whiter than white, what fact’s are you basing that gem on? What actions of mine or indeed any other poster are you referring to? Who has been libelled? If anything is ludicrous it is your defence of our flawed police force, and your boasting.

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Boblet - 16-May-11 17:18 

Anyway, back to the gripe!

If this woman ironed a shirt for you, cooked a meal for you, washed your dirty socks or did anything else that helped you then she can fairly be considered to having contributed to your career. Marriage is a partnership. My wife has supported me in my career(s) and even though she has not actually 'done' anything her support has been priceless. She would be entitled to share in my successes as she has definitely contributed to them.
The thing I find most interesting here is that you do not mention why you seperated! I suspect that is because saying so would throw a less than innocent light upon you. I wonder if you would clarify that and then accept the views of others that are based on the whole story, not just the bit you want us to know!

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Freddie - 16-May-11 12:56 

Criminals! Yes that's right, criminals. They're the ones to blame for all of the dissatisfaction aimed toward the police and the legal system. Take them out of the equation and the problems all go away. The need for the police is a direct result of the existence of the botom dwelling low life that clog up our prisons and courtrooms.
Of course, they never tell a lie do they? It's about time that people took responsibility for their own actions. If you've been in court to witness police lies then you have hardly been whiter than white yourself. Suck it up and accept responsibility for your own actions.
I'll never claim that the police are without fault but some of the ludicrous accusations directed toward them on this site are nothing short of libel!

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Freddie - 16-May-11 12:21 

Boblet - thankyou , the police are good at telling lies ! But recently it's got much tougher , judges & jurors don't trust them thanks to the media .Good because I know first hand how corrupt they are . Barry George was a good example & I still say body cameras -more public involvement !
Maybe then they will think twice about trying to fit people up.
Also any corrupt practise should be met with then end of your job !They waste 000s on malicious prosecutions .And the CPS should review the way they forward cases to court .

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The legal talk - 15-May-11 13:01 

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