There's not enough scientific evidence
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Be prepared to face up to the astonishing truth that nearly everything you see and hear is entirely without scientific evidence to prove that it is true. Scientific evidence allows us to be alive. It allows us to enjoy TV, radio, the Internet, motor cars and refrigerated food. |
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Unfortunately there are many who feel science is untrustworthy and warrants ever vigilant suspicion. There are many examples to base this idea such as coffee is bad for you when 2 weeks later it’s good for you. Scientists can be just as fickle with chocolate, real butter and wine. I suppose eating and drinking most things in moderation would surely do us no real harm, but what does harm people are the charlatans who peddle their wares extracting huge amounts of hard earned cash from us. These people and big businesses should warrant more suspicion than any scientist you care to mention. The following are products and services that have no scientific basis to support their effectiveness therefore they don’t work; they aren’t true and should be avoided at all costs. |
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Homeopathy, hypnotherapy, counselling, crystal therapy, magnet therapy, dowsing, acupuncture, ghosts, UFO'S from alien worlds, Bermuda triangle, God, religion, angels, clairvoyants, tarot cards, astrology, ESP, spoon bending using mind power, improving eyesight without glasses, cancer caused by overhead power lines, passive smoking and the list just goes on and on. If you seriously believe any of these than you need some one to explain to you that Father Christmas does not exist and neither does the tooth fairy. By: Phil
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. This gripe is pure common sense.
A gripe I have is so called "Paranormal Investigators", "Mediums" and the like, who charge people to rid their places of residence of evil spirits and to contact deceased relatives.
This should be illegal as there is not one bit of Scientific evidence to prove there are Ghosts, Spirits, Poltergeists etc. However, if people are prepared to ignore this and throw money down the drain then that's their look out.
A gripe I have is so called "Paranormal Investigators", "Mediums" and the like, who charge people to rid their places of residence of evil spirits and to contact deceased relatives.
This should be illegal as there is not one bit of Scientific evidence to prove there are Ghosts, Spirits, Poltergeists etc. However, if people are prepared to ignore this and throw money down the drain then that's their look out.
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Athiesm is the only way. - 9-Sep-11 16:09
Fair comment to the OP but consider..a fair bit of this "pop science" stuff is reported in the likes of the Daily Mail which would probably be fair to say is at best biased, and undoubtely has agendas with stirring up public opinion for debates such as we see here.
This is the same paper that is obsessed by Cheryl Cole and Pippa Middleton publishing the unbelievable trite nonsense about them. Hardly qualifies them as having the journalistic quality of an objective look at scientific evidence.
This is the same paper that is obsessed by Cheryl Cole and Pippa Middleton publishing the unbelievable trite nonsense about them. Hardly qualifies them as having the journalistic quality of an objective look at scientific evidence.
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zy469764304@gmail.com - 1-Jul-11 16:18
For want of a better place to put this comment I will put it here!
I've been hearing on the radio today that they now think that injections hurt less if you watch the needle going in instead of looking away.
They have forgotten one very important factor in watching the needle go in: the possibility of pain incurred as you gently slide off your perch and fall to the floor unconcious!
I've been hearing on the radio today that they now think that injections hurt less if you watch the needle going in instead of looking away.
They have forgotten one very important factor in watching the needle go in: the possibility of pain incurred as you gently slide off your perch and fall to the floor unconcious!
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grumpyoldwoman - 10-Feb-11 17:05
Oh,Phil,you missed out global warming and Speed Kills! as well!
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Fed up with hearing of global warming. No - I am not an expert, but neither am I an idiot either. In 1815 Mt Tambora blew up and it resulted two years later in ' the year without a summer!' Mass starvation and crop failure, it snowed in the summer and the animals died in the fields. Then in 1980 Mt St Helens blew and resulted in the Winter of 1982 - which was much worse than this cold spell - although we still have two more months of winter to get through. No - I do not believe we are resoponsible for global warming - volcanoes throw out more gases in one eruption than we do and quite a few have blown their top recently. I said this on a newspaper website and had a rude response - "where shall we send your Nobel prize?" Rude as I do not purport to be an expert - neither though am I a moron - just am interested in the subject and read a lot about it.
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Funny thing about scientists, isn't it? They don't mind the attention of the press when things are going their way, they welcome publicity if they think it might mean bigger research grants or more secure government funding or - let's not beat around the bush - a job for life, pratting about in their labs and prating about in committees and flying hither and yon at someone else's expense to be admired at conferences. But when someone disagrees or dares to suggest that they haven't really told the truth or done their jobs properly, well ? they don't like it up 'em, do they? Their first thought is not rational debate, or trying to prove their case publicly and logically, but censorship. I'm a scientist, I'm important, I have your interests at heart, I know best. Do as I say. Think as I think. Or I'll scratch your eyes out, you evil cow.
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mardi gras; if you really are a doctor, God help us all!
With your poor spelling I am extremely worried that you may not know vital facts such as the difference between the prefixes "hypo-" and "hyper-". Confusion of the two could produce fatal results.
MikeP, you are perfectly right about the attention and advice given to patients by homeopaths and other non-conventional practitioners. Similarly, I have three basic family medical books in my library; two are on allopathic medicine and one on homeopathy. I always find that the last one gives the best and most detailed advice, even if that advice is to consult your GP!
With your poor spelling I am extremely worried that you may not know vital facts such as the difference between the prefixes "hypo-" and "hyper-". Confusion of the two could produce fatal results.
MikeP, you are perfectly right about the attention and advice given to patients by homeopaths and other non-conventional practitioners. Similarly, I have three basic family medical books in my library; two are on allopathic medicine and one on homeopathy. I always find that the last one gives the best and most detailed advice, even if that advice is to consult your GP!
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grumpyoldwoman - 13-Oct-10 16:31
I'm not convinced that homeopathic medicines work beyond the placebo effect. What undoubtedly does provide a benefit is the care and advice given by the practitioner to the patient, this leads to a greater awareness in the patient of a healtheir life style, and attendant benefits.
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grumpyoldwoman,
knowing how they are made, I cannot see why homeopathic medicines would work but I cannot deny that people I know seem to find that they do.
This is a strange gripe that mixes up too many subjects to either just agree or disagree with. Lumping tarot cards in with counselling is just silly; I have a friend who is being helped enormously by a counsellor. Of course the counsellor needs to be a good one who has been professionally trained.
(I meant to say on another thread by the way that I am really sorry you can rarely drink coffee anymore, especially the Klingon variety!).
knowing how they are made, I cannot see why homeopathic medicines would work but I cannot deny that people I know seem to find that they do.
This is a strange gripe that mixes up too many subjects to either just agree or disagree with. Lumping tarot cards in with counselling is just silly; I have a friend who is being helped enormously by a counsellor. Of course the counsellor needs to be a good one who has been professionally trained.
(I meant to say on another thread by the way that I am really sorry you can rarely drink coffee anymore, especially the Klingon variety!).
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Well, the tests you've seen were different to the ones I've seen.
Besides I've also seen it work dramatically well on young children, better than allopathic medicine in some cases.
How much of the sucess of allopathic medicine is down to the placebo effect? Think about it, you go into a big impressive building and see all these people in white coats who you expect will cure you and they do all sorts of tests and give you all sorts of treatments; you usually have alot of confidence in them.
If you see a homeopath it's often in their own home or a small clinic; not nearly as impressive as a large hospital, and they give you some little white pills which taste of nothing, so why would the placebo effect be more pronounced?
As I said, I can see why homeopathy shouldn't work, but I can also see that it does!
Besides I've also seen it work dramatically well on young children, better than allopathic medicine in some cases.
How much of the sucess of allopathic medicine is down to the placebo effect? Think about it, you go into a big impressive building and see all these people in white coats who you expect will cure you and they do all sorts of tests and give you all sorts of treatments; you usually have alot of confidence in them.
If you see a homeopath it's often in their own home or a small clinic; not nearly as impressive as a large hospital, and they give you some little white pills which taste of nothing, so why would the placebo effect be more pronounced?
As I said, I can see why homeopathy shouldn't work, but I can also see that it does!
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grumpyoldwoman - 13-Oct-10 11:17
grumpyoldwoman,
'Cyclist, can you just explain how the placebo effect can work on animals?'
Can you read?
I repeat my answer, which you obviously didn't understand.
Homeopathy doesn't work on animals in double-blind tests! The tests where homoeopathy seemed to work, weren't double-blind. They were badly designed tests!
Explanation:
What that means is that in non-double-blind tests, the researchers knew which animals had been treated and that affected the results. When double-blind methods were used, this removed the bias and hey presto, the efficacy of homoeopathy declined to the placebo effect.
'Cyclist, can you just explain how the placebo effect can work on animals?'
Can you read?
I repeat my answer, which you obviously didn't understand.
Homeopathy doesn't work on animals in double-blind tests! The tests where homoeopathy seemed to work, weren't double-blind. They were badly designed tests!
Explanation:
What that means is that in non-double-blind tests, the researchers knew which animals had been treated and that affected the results. When double-blind methods were used, this removed the bias and hey presto, the efficacy of homoeopathy declined to the placebo effect.
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Science in and of itself is good to a point. It has helped the common man and woman greatly in advances in the medical field for instance.
But...But...with ALL the new technology, and all the grand scientific advances, people in the so called Modern World, still feel empty, suffer emotionally, etc.
Science, has not solved the problem of people's Spiritual needs. Nor SHOULD IT.
That is not what science is for. Religion and Science CAN compliment each other as long as you understand that neither will prove or disprove the other as well. God doesn't need you science. He created it in the first place. And science doesn't need God to work. Science DOES need moral guidance though or else we risk using that power for greed and evil instead of for the good of the human race and the world.
But...But...with ALL the new technology, and all the grand scientific advances, people in the so called Modern World, still feel empty, suffer emotionally, etc.
Science, has not solved the problem of people's Spiritual needs. Nor SHOULD IT.
That is not what science is for. Religion and Science CAN compliment each other as long as you understand that neither will prove or disprove the other as well. God doesn't need you science. He created it in the first place. And science doesn't need God to work. Science DOES need moral guidance though or else we risk using that power for greed and evil instead of for the good of the human race and the world.
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Scientist Believer - 12-Jul-09 12:16
house (Dr. Gregory?, no I don't think so!), your comment makes sense but how does it relate to the gripe? Do you agree or not?
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grumpyoldwoman - 11-Mar-09 09:43
Science is everything. It's around you all the time but you are too ignorant to notice it. How are you typing this? On a computer, that uses electricity? How are you even typing? Is that because you learn to read and synapses in your bran recognise light that has refracted against your retina and sent a message via action potentials down your optic nerve? How are you remembering to breathe whilst you do this?
Science is all around you, you are just a genetic machine and lots of little chemical reactions. I feel sorry for people who don't understand science is pretty much everything all around in some form or another: air, wood, fire, all types of cells, DNA, nerves, music, light, the sun etc etc etc etc
Science is all around you, you are just a genetic machine and lots of little chemical reactions. I feel sorry for people who don't understand science is pretty much everything all around in some form or another: air, wood, fire, all types of cells, DNA, nerves, music, light, the sun etc etc etc etc
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On that quick gripe, Science doesn't benefit ordinary people.
This is a wind-up, right? Science benefits you in every activity you've mentioned.
House cleaning: Vacuum cleaners, super-duper cleaning products, 'magic' mops and sponges, etc.
Laundry: Electric washing machines, advanced washing powders / liquids, fabric conditioners and tumble dryers. Mowing the grass:
Electric mowers, hover mowers, even automatic mowers.
Decorating: Innumerable paints for different surfaces, effects, etc.
Cooking: Microwave ovens, convection ovens, fan ovens, automatic timers, electric mixers etc
Driving: If you really can't be bothered to do it yourself, get the bus.
Or do you think all these things evolved organically? If you've a headache from reading all this, go and take a scientifically-designed painkiller.
This is a wind-up, right? Science benefits you in every activity you've mentioned.
House cleaning: Vacuum cleaners, super-duper cleaning products, 'magic' mops and sponges, etc.
Laundry: Electric washing machines, advanced washing powders / liquids, fabric conditioners and tumble dryers. Mowing the grass:
Electric mowers, hover mowers, even automatic mowers.
Decorating: Innumerable paints for different surfaces, effects, etc.
Cooking: Microwave ovens, convection ovens, fan ovens, automatic timers, electric mixers etc
Driving: If you really can't be bothered to do it yourself, get the bus.
Or do you think all these things evolved organically? If you've a headache from reading all this, go and take a scientifically-designed painkiller.
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I am popping up here. I am a skeptic. Do you believe in God? If you do you must be mad, or an idiot.
Honestly what prats there are in this world. Wishy-washy liberals.
Honestly what prats there are in this world. Wishy-washy liberals.
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Skeptic Tank - 29-Nov-08 15:40
You are incoreect in that there is no evidence to prove the efficacy of Homeopathy, Acupuncture, Christmas (just to name a few). There is a current growing list available on the Cochrane Review library of RCT's (random conrtol trials - scientific name) and clinical trials testing and proving there is validity to some of the claims of natural medicine. Apart from the 100s and sometimes 1000's of years of use of these particular modalities. I find it amusing that people need to cling to "scientific evidence" to believe in something. Science is not a God, but to need to have scientific evidence in order to believe is placing it in such a standing - which is ironic, considering you don't believe in God. With regards to Christmas not existing, then what does more than half the world celebrate at the end of each year? Science basis it's "proof" on overwhelming evidence of existance. I would venture to say that theoverwhelming evidence in this instance is that Christmas exists. Those that don't believe in it but take the holidays are not supporting their argument terribly well. What are you doing over the Christmas break by chance?
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Cyclist, can you just explain how the placebo effect can work on animals?
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grumpyoldwoman - 3-Nov-08 16:46
Homeopathy doesn't work on animals in double-blind tests! The tests where homeopathy seemed to work, weren't double-blind. They were badly designed tests!
Homeopathy relies entirely upon the placebo effect, as does acupuncture.
Homeopathy relies entirely upon the placebo effect, as does acupuncture.
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