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Disgusting standards of hygiene in pubs

I am totally appalled by the disgusting hygiene in pubs.  Bar staff collect the empty glasses inserting their fingers into the glass, holding them where customers have had there mouths. They then make no effort to wash their hands before serving the next customer, usually passing the customer his drink by holding the glass by the rim, ensuring that the pathogens on the dirty glasses are passed on.

People serving food are not supposed to eat or smoke to prevent saliva being passed from their fingers to the food.  What really annoys me is seeing bar staff smoking in the gap of the bar with the flap up thinking that they are not breaking the rules because they are not smoking behind the bar.  They of course do not wash their hands when serving a customer.  Likewise it is common for bar staff to eat behind the bar and when being disturbed by a customer, give their fingers a good lick before handing the customer his glass by the rim.

Looking past the guiness pump ata bar It is also disgusting for customers to have their existing glass refilled whereby their germs can be transferred to the beer tap and transmitted to the next customer.  Likewise optics where the rim of the glass is pressed against the release mechanism also transmits germs when the same glass is used.  This is an ideal way of getting hepatitis.  In pubs that serve food it is common for bar staff to collect the dirty plates and then serve a customer food or drink without washing their hands.  It is a myth that alcohol kills germs otherwise beer would not go off.

It is also disgusting when free snacks are put on the bar. 70% of males do not wash their hands when going to the toilet – Yuk.

It is also a common sight to see customers take a piece of cheese from the bowl on the bar and give it to their dog, placing it nicely in its’ mouth before putting their fingers back in the bowl – Yuk. I have seen the landlady of a local pub feed her own dog and not wash her hands before serving customers.  The lady is a trained nurse and should know better.

The bar lady in another local pub was seen mopping the floor with a mop used in the toilets.  The handle of the mop was filthy but she then on to serve customers without washing her hands, of course making sure that she handled the full glasses by the rim.

The local pub, bar staff The other day a barman emptied the dog bowl and was about to serve us with a beer.  My friend told him that dogs lick their testicles and that he was likely to get tertiary genital herpes (untrue).  He rushed to wash his hands!  Bar staff collecting dirty glasses or ashtrays quite often pass the dirty items over your drink – ugh.

The landlord of a local pub cleans his spectacles and then dries them on the same cloth used for drinking glasses.  As mentioned in somebody else’s gripe you have to use the dirty door handles to exit the loo.  I got round this problem by using a tissue.  There is of course nowhere to dispose of the tissue.

The health department at our local council will do nothing, they tell me, unless you can prove you have caught some disease from these disgusting practices.  I am therefore grateful for the opportunity of posting this gripe.

By: Disgusted from Brighton

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Mental! Are you some sort of obsessive compulsive? You use a piece of tissue to open doors? Why not just cover yourself in layers of polythene and then dispose of them everytime you interact with anything. You can't protect against every risk, but simple and sensible precautions to minimise the biggest risks is all that is needed.

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Pjm101 - 27-Nov-10 16:06 

NOTTINGHAM pub called the Via Fossa down the Waterfront cheap drinks Wednesday and Thursday evenings they call it the £1.50. That is great news but do you like sitting in the garden shed drinking on these cold nights, well that's just what you do in that pub as the door person's like to have the door open so they can see the bar. The door is at least 9 foot tall and when the door at the back is open as well it's a barn type feeling, if it's like it tonight we will be going to the Company Inn just up the canal side it's nice and cozy in there but the drinks 50pence more.

Last week in the Via Fossa the door was open the music was making the speakers jump, and down stairs every one with sence had left, just visit this place in the summer but keep well away in the winter.

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LONGSOCKSS - 30-Sep-10 09:42 

I'm not sure why the landlady needs to wash her hands after feeding the dog, unless she picked up raw meat with her bare fingers.

Does the landlady need to wash her hands after feeding you?

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HeatherChloe - 20-Sep-10 01:33 

Kathleen W, of course we 'do' banking literally but figuratively we haven't done it very well at all and with our S&P triple 'A' rating still hanging in the balance, London's status may go the way of the car industry.

I totally agree with you that people get bad service because they can't be bothered to get good service, or they don't want to make a scene. But standards have been sliding for years and many people now are just used to poor service because they've never experienced service done consistently well.

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anon - 15-Jul-10 15:39 

"As a paying customer, you are often expected to behave as the worker would expect and accept from her personal friends. If not, then you are unreasonable and obviously need to be put in your place."

That's really true. To make matters worse, (like the fingers in the glass example) bystanders for some unknown reason, often offer helpful resolutions like, "'er 'ands is clean, init. Nuffin to worry about, mush. She's over 'er bout o' typhoid." Rather than presenting a unified front for their own sake with something like, "Yes, I would like to drink in a hygienic environment, too."

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anon2 - 15-Jul-10 15:19 

anon

Britain doesn't "do" banking?

London ranks only second to New York in the list of the 45 most important financial centres.

I would agree though that many service industries are very bad at service but I think it is largely the fault of customers because they will grumble among themselves or moan to their friends later but will not take the trouble to effectively complain.

I am one of the many people who loathes piped music in shops and restaurants, and when I have done a quick straw poll I have found that most people agree with me. If I then say why not phone, write or email to tell head office or the parent company how you feel, they either say that they can't be bothered or that they don't like to be seen as a moaner!

I think it is pathetic and spineless.

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Kathleen W - 15-Jul-10 15:18 

The English don't do service particularly well, in fact it's downright poor compared to many other countries both near and far. Unfortunately, pointing out to a sloppy service industry Brit that she is underperforming in any way often results in an 'attitude'. As a paying customer, you are often expected to behave as the worker would expect and accept from her personal friends. If not, then you are unreasonable and obviously need to be put in your place. So, Britain can't do industry or service and it certainly can't do tech or banking...so what is there to do well? Sign on?

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anon - 15-Jul-10 12:33 

The times I have to tell the barman, please watch you fingers on the top of my glass,last week I had to tell this very nice bargirl to give me a fresh glass, she had long slender fingers but they were all over the top of my glass.

This bar down the Waterfront in Nottingham seems to have new staff every week, I get sick and tired of telling them, I told this barman this week to watch his fingers then from behind this woman piped up saying That's what your immune system is for, then when I went outside with the drink she started telling her boyfriend but very loadly hoping I was hearing her.

By the way the bar is not Wetherspoons they are trained to hold the glass the correct way...

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LONGSOCKSS - 15-Jul-10 11:59 

Mr Toast
not all Londoners are cockneys and what a stupid prejudiced thing to say. If you have nothing intelligent to say why not say nothing?

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magog - 23-Jun-10 23:55 

Last night I was at a pub where the barmaid simply rinsed glasses and lightly rubbed her fingers over the rim (no soap!). Then used them to serve people drinks in. Disgusting!

I'm not surprised, it's rare to see people was their hands properly after going to the loo in London.

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disgusted of common pub practi - 8-May-10 10:28 

Think yourself lucky, many years ago most pubs were 'men only' and the urinal was the bar itself, check out some of the older untouched traditional bars, where there is a trough at the base of the bar for the urine to run down.

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 20-Apr-10 10:59 

I complained once to the landlord of my local that mice were running over the feet of customers
in his bar.He replied that the mice enhance the character of his pub and that most customers dont even notice them.In the same pub the barstaff often put their dirty footwear on the same shelf where clean glasses are kept.The staff used the customers toilets,but no soap or handtowels in sight.One barman had been eating his dinner at the bar and served customers inbetween leaving his barbecue chicken fingerprints on customers glass.

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herdygerdyman - 27-Feb-10 08:36 

The worst bit is the men's loos. Pee all over the floor. Those ridiculously small Armitage Shanks urinal bowls. What do they think the men of this country have? Tiny Tim's tackle? Shake a leg!

Let's tip-toe through the slime and muck on the floor!

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Yucky-da - 13-Dec-09 12:21 

hi all, could you tell me why when im in a pub I can not have the glass I have drank from refilled? I was told that the bar person serving could get fined? as the glass I have used would then be touching the nozzle, and therefore germs from my glass could pass to the nozzle, and so on to the next glass and person, etc.

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nutmeg - 13-Dec-09 12:14 

I think this griper has hygeine issues bordering on OCD, and should be cut some slack. Although it appears the gripe is over-the-top, he actually makes some perfectly valid points about transmission of germs. That said, it's a pub, not a hospital ward, and the griper must learn to accept that germs are sometimes unavoidable in public spaces. Hygeine is a good thing to be obsessed with anyway. This morning as I sat in the car park, I wiped down the interior of my car with anti bacterial wipes!

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Hygeine Fan - 13-May-09 08:38 

The answer is not to go to the pub - let the rest of us catch the nasty diseases

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Shrewfan - 12-May-09 21:22 

Thankfully things have advanced slightly in the food hygiene area, we now have an organisation called Scores On The Doors. These people work directly for local authorities and publish their findings on their website. There are some real surprises ! The only complaint I have about them is that it's not compulsary for local authorities to sign up to their system. Their biggest advantage is that they are definitely putting the bad food businesses in the frame. This can only be good in the long term for those who are handling food safely.

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Ted - 25-Jan-09 13:11 

The comments made are true of some venues around the country, but please don't group all bar staff together. I have spent a lot of time making sure my staff always handle glasses on the lower half, leaving the top clean for the customers whining gobs! We also always wash our hands after smoking and eating, and in fact after pretty much everything. If you want to visit a pub with quality service and standards of hygiene come to York and ask for the Wonkey Donkey...

By the way - before you start on any more one-sided rants of such magnitude take an English course: your grammar is appalling!

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Donkey God - 27-Feb-08 15:36 

You'd be hard pressed to find a decent service in a public house these days. In fact, finding a good service of any kind in this country is a rarity. The other week I was in a public house and asked the staff for some beer mats as the table had been for a swim. This member of staff gave a twisted expression as a reply to my request and just stood there like a cardboard cut-out. The whole country is finished it really is.

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Davey Boy - 2-Jul-07 15:57 

My Bad
Bacteria, yeasts and molds are three types of microorganisms. Some people often confuse, and almost always misunderstand, their functions, but they are just as real and alive as you are. They eat and grow. They reproduce and die.
So same old same old

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Citysmurf - 22-Jun-07 20:15 

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