Men have no right to reproductive choice
13-May-2008
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Men have no right to reproductive choice

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Would be parents should have equal rights.  If a woman becomes pregnant, she has a right to abortion.  The man has no equivalent right.  If the woman decides to have an abortion, the man cannot stop her.  If the woman decides she wants to be a parent and then keeps the baby, he also cannot stop her.

I agree that a woman has the right to abortion. However, if this is correct, a man should have the right to opt out of fatherhood.

Life size model of baby at 8 weeks after conception

Even if the man has been deceived by a woman telling him she is unable to have children or is using contraception or if she leaves him and takes a new partner, he is still forced to shoulder financial responsibility for that child.

This is the case whether or not he is allowed access - and even when he has not been told that he is the father for a number of years.

Neither are the rights of men who do wish to have involvement with their children upheld.  Women are allowed to withhold access rights while still taking child support payments from the man, and the fact that it may be the woman who has opted out of the relationship is not taken into account.

I have set up a site www.didnthaveachoice.com to offer support to men who are being denied reproductive rights by this country's unfair laws.  We welcome members who want to see true equal rights in this difficult matter.  If you want to see true equality and a better, fairer system for men, women, children and the taxpayer, please join and give us your support.

By: Morgaine


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Excuse me but I suggest you burn in hell and your babies that you so selfishy stole the only thing they were given watch you and do the same thing you did to them..sit there while you suffer a horrible death. You can't afford a baby? Than don't have sex! Need sex? Be more carefull! Rape victims? I'm sorry but dont make a simple baby suffer for someone else's mistake. There are adoption places all over the world that glady love God's gift of life and many women who can't have a child who would do anything for this miracle. So when your dead imagine getting saline burning your insides or a hanger type item swishing around your insides simply because your parents/parent was an irresponsible selfish monster.
*Pro-life  08-May-2008 02:33

 
I think the real issue here is that the male has no say either way. He is 50% responsible for the conception. He would be 50% responsible for maintenance etc. Yet he has 0% say in anything. That's simply wrong!
Regardless of the manner of the conception (with the exception of forced intercourse) it takes two people to conceive a child. Why does only one of those two have any rights associated to it? I understand the arguments of not having to endure a pregnancy but nevertheless it is still unfair.
A man cannot win when it comes to pregnancy but if people were able to put aside the gender issue they would see that that man is also a human being and deserves to be considered.
It's not always entirely the guys fault, rarely in fact.
Two people agree to have sex.
Two people allow that to happen unprotected.
Two people are affected massively by the outcome.
Only one person has any say in the matter. Doesn't seem fair does it?
*Freddie  24-Apr-2008 16:29

 
Abortion wont be outlawed.. as if it was it would go underground and be done in sorded horriable places, where the safety of no one will be taken place. Its actually a selfish comment to suggest that people shouldnt have an abortion. I feel that every person that says that, should pay for the children of the families that dont want to have children. See how long we will be pro-life then.
*thefox01  24-Apr-2008 14:52

 
Men should stop griping that they should have the right to decide the unborn child should die even if the mother doesn't want to abort. The emotional and psychological consequences of abortion have been identified as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It is lifelong, and affects marital relations and treatment of other children she may have, as well as the children themselves if they learn about it. Men suffer it, too, but not, arguably, as acutely or as frequently as women, so men should stop arguing that they should have the right to demand that a woman abort her child against her will. But the solution is to end abortion, and stop using abortion as an excuse for being sexually irresponsible. If you don't want the lady to get pregnant, don't use for your own pleasure. You disrespect her person-hood and her womanhood when you use her. I know, some women seek out sexual liaisons, but that's the culture that she is born into, a culture which expects her to be sexually active to be competitive for a mate. It doesn't mean it's right, and it doesn't mean you have to take advantage of her. This is not religion talking--it's common sense. Statistics show that family life and civilization both thrive only where there is sexual continence outside of marriage, and marital fidelity within. The family is the basic unit of civilization. If one chooses to ignore that and lets the culture dictate his/her behavior, then they don't have any right to complain about the "unfair" laws. Roe v Wade is an unfair law.
*Lorri  15-Apr-2008 16:10

 
As for aborting a child a man wants but the woman doesn't- well it is my opinion that abortion should be outlawed except for cases in which the mother is at risk of dying secondary to her pregnancy. I think if you become pregnant with a child you do not wish to or cannot raise, you should give the child up for adoption. There are many couples who cannot have children who long for the baby you want to abort. This may not be an easy thing to do, but it a chance you take when you decide to have sex. As for rape, well, I've never been there, but it certainly is not the child's fault.. I do think adoption should be considered in this case as well. There are options for unwanted pregnancies other than abortion. I do respect other people's decisions and opinions, this is just mine.
*mama2be LI NY  29-Mar-2008 03:45

 
No one has the right to decide what a woman should do with her body except for herself, and thats why the law provides no such rights to men or grandparents, or etc. regardless of the woman's age or social status. That is why women are provided with health care, shelter, and food if they are unable to provide for themself during their pregnancy. If you don't want the responsibility of a child or be put in such a position, take responsibility and wrap it up. I feel no sympathy for men who must be forced to take responsibility for their actions- women do not get pregnant on their own. You should be ashamed of your website. What you should be doing is encouraging men who do not want children to always wear a condom when engaing in sexual activity, and warn them that even with this precaution, he could still impregnate a woman, and that is the chance he is taking when he decides to have sex. Grow up and take responsibility, you make me sick.
*mama2be LI NY  29-Mar-2008 02:40

 
Mermaid, you revolt me. It's your body, you should start taking some RESPONSIBILITY for it, though I think it very unlikely that you'll need to in this respect if you're this open about your views anywhere other than the internet.
*sick cat  03-Mar-2008 18:41

 
Dina,
you are right, most people shouldn't have sex, but they do. Abortion on the other hand is a personal choice, maybe it is not my choice or your choice but if I was raped in a dark alley somewhere Abortion might be my choice, or if I was a crack head that didn't care about anyone or anything but crack abortion is a good choice, or if I was a heart patient that took all of the precautions needed but still got pregnant, knowing I would die along with my unborn baby, abortion would be the right choice, see it's about choices, maybe not your choice, or mine...
*Miranda Strickland CALF.  29-Feb-2008 06:18

 
men do have rights, we all have the right to free will don't we? A man has a right to have sex or not, a woman has the same right. The bottom line is men will never have the option to "opt out" (although many do anyway) one word "WELFARE" do you think people want to support the children of those that want to "opt out?" Really, it will never happen, and if you are man enough to have sex then you should be man enough to pay child support.
*Miranda Strickland CALF.  29-Feb-2008 06:13

 
Dina, you just don't get it do you? Our decision to terminate does not make us bad people. People are being killed on the streets everyday for no reason whatsoever.

Like I wrote earlier, we made a decision that was right for us both at that time. We weighed everything up, our age, jobs, future the lot. I'm fed up of just 'getting by' and we want quality of life for a change.

Tell you what, we'll have another child and once he/she has reached the age of 18 years I'll send you the bill for the 18 years of raising our child.

No one is going to come along to us and say "You've done a good job at bringing up a family, here's a wad of cash to help you along your way."

If anything, we are responsible parents as I'd have a long hard think about bringing a child into this earth. Why? I don't like what I see and hear from day to day and it's not getting any better now is it?
*Steven A  09-Jan-2008 08:05

 
We dont need a decision on abortion, it should be prohibited for ever!!!!!
*Dina  09-Jan-2008 05:16

 
Dina,

How narrow minded can a person possibly be? You are writing with the view that there's a one hundred percent proof form of child prevention.

We have a daughter that we love very much though she was not planned and we both took precautions.

My wife became pregnant once again at a later stage. We made the decision to abort as this was what was right for us at that time. Not for anyone else, for us, what was right for us and our current life situation.

Each families circumstances differ - you need to see the big picture Dina.
*Steven A  08-Jan-2008 08:26


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