Tipping in restaurants
04-July-2009
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You must be joking...  Why do we tip or pay an extra service charge in restaurants - at all?  The way I see it, it’s like this.  You have agreed in principle to pay for your food at advertised prices.  Having selecting your meal from the choices on the menu you then sit and wait quietly and patiently for it.  

The meal arrives and you eat.  Surely you should expect to get good service with it.  Why pay extra on a tip or a service charge?

A waitress taking a food order at a restaurant

Surely you wouldn’t expect to tip the lady at the petrol station because she smiled at you when you paid?  I wouldn’t tip the chap who just spent 20 minutes helping pick the wood for my DIY project so why should we be expected to tip at a restaurant?

We all know that in the restaurant business is one with a very high margin.  Surely tipping and paying an extra service charge just helps keep waiter staff wages down?

It would be much better to make tipping obsolete but if the food or service is not up to standard then make a complaint and it’s up to the restaurant owner or the manager to put it right - perhaps even discount it.  You shouldn’t have to pay a tip for the food, because you have already paid for it and the waiters and waitresses are paid by the restaurant to serve the food!

By: Wes


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Ignorance...
"Ethic meals means bad cooking"
Erm I think you will find that England is renowned for having terrible cuisine.
Its also why the majority of the top restaurants in our capital city do not serve English cuisine

Granted every single one of you has a valid point when it comes to service charge; it should not be included on the bill.

But as for trying to justify not tipping at all.
You
Cheap
Cheap
and may I say it again
Cheap
People

The men who on there first date pretend to leave a tip for the server and whilst the women has gone to the toilet just before leaving the restaurant takes the change of the tip tray and meets his date by the door.
Or the women who work out exactly how much they ate and drank fight over it down to the penny, - the kind of thing children do with their pocket money.
Or the one person on a table of 20 or more, who stands up and proclaims, "we don't have to pay the service charge its optional" and thinks that the other members of their party will respect them more for this - saving them exactly £1 each.
*Francis  02-Jul-2009 14:30

 
On Sundays when I go to church and leave an offering in the collection, is that 10% of the wages of sin for the priest? 11th commandment: thou shalt not tip! Or have I bought myself a shorter stay in purgatory. I wonder what the cover charge for the bread of mass and the communion wine is all served with a smile. Do priests receive the minimum wage?
*Foir Chrissake don't tip  29-Jun-2009 00:38

 
£££ is joking with us. If the tips/service charges [money for staff wages] were properly included in the advertised menu price for the meals, and not in 6-point print on the back page of the menu then we all would know what we were going to pay before we went in.

Restaurants which add service charges, cover charges, extras for vegetables, outrageous prices for wine etc.

Restaurants which allow their staff to tot for favour with and monies from the public to make up their feeble wages.

Restaurants which are NOT honest about overall costs of using their service

Avoid all these con-merchants. They should all be closed down as on the grounds of deceiving the public.

And above all I hate poncey waiters who with their phoney accents thinks they are being authentic. Come off it! Ethnic meals usually means bad cooking. Bad quality overprice rubbish.

Dim Sum = a meal where they hope the customer cannot add up the bill as they will present it to you in Chinese.
*No Tipping  28-Jun-2009 14:15

 
If the employes paid them proper wage, how much do you think you food would cost? To serve you food restaurant (lets say that seats 40 to 50 covers) needs at least 3 to 4 chefs in the kitchen, 2 kitchen porters, 4 to 5 waiting staff, floor manager, back of the house manager and cleaner. Now imagine that this is not a chain restaurant. How much would you expect your meal to cost if they all had proper wages? I think you are looking at around £12 a starter, £30 main and £10 pudding. I think in that case there wouldn't be any nice places left to have a tasty dinner.
*£££  25-Jun-2009 23:06

 
I think the practice of tipping in restaurants is about the same level of evil as the scam that our MPs have perpetrated on us with their expense claims.

A complete new regime in the restaurant business is required. It should be all about feeding the hungry citizen, and not ripping him or her off.

Do you tip clowns?
*Stop Tipping  21-Jun-2009 08:38

 
I was wandering about the same thing why tip when you already pay for the food, and it's not like food is cheap.If it was up to me I will abolish tipping altogether.
*nxer  20-Jun-2009 13:35

 
Do not pay service charge in restaurants because waiter does not get it
*steve  10-Jun-2009 10:23

 
Tipping is traditionally the accepted custom on the continent.You are served at your table by waiters who generally take pride in their profession.But not in Britain.Here it is virtually non existant.British restaurants are a joke.It has become increasingly more common to have to serve yourself & fetch your own food,cutlery,& drinks,ect in many of the larger restaurant & pub chains nowadays.Nandos & Pizza Hut are the worst culprits.Ok,fine,you know what to expect.You get what you pay for.But it just amazes me,that after having just fetched my own plates,food & cutlery ect,I then get presented with the bill stating "Service charge not included-Thankyou".Heaven forbid if I should offend the surly waitress for not doing so.Do they take us all for idiots!It could only happen here in Britain.Why should I give a tip for having to serve myself?British food is crap.So is the service.I'm fed up with being ripped off in this country.Best emigrate to France.
*Mr McPoo  22-May-2009 01:01

 
Nurses work in a person to person industry. Most of them know how to give good care. It's all part of their professional training. Do I tip them? No way José!

Why should I tip waiters, taxi-drivers, hairdressers, porters? Is it all because their ridiculous employers can't be bothered to pay them a proper wage?

I don't tip Nurses! I won't tip Waiters!
*Stop Tipping  20-May-2009 17:39

 
First of all, the 'slobs' that serve food in this country are the ones not professionally trained, as per mr 'stop tipping all together' who clearly only eats at crap restaurants. also you 'dont tip your lawyer' coz he's on £100+ per hour! Even at the nicest of restaurnats servers earn minimum wage. The reason they are even in the industry is because they are a 'people person' and know how to give good service, therefore earn good, and deserved, tips. If I had given bad service I would not only not expect a tip but I would apologise for spoiling there evening. If, no matter how hard I work, people refuse to tip I feel unappreciated and unable to pay the rent.
Service charge is OPTIONAL so dont be stupid and check the bill for it.
I also believe that if I was going to get paid the same no matter how hard I worked, I simply wouldn't try and the servicefor everyone would be bad.

All of you who believe tipping is 'wrong' have never worked in the industry so please dont try to tell us how it should work.
*Ahem,  20-May-2009 17:22

 
Stormy please let us know which restaurant you are serving at, as we will not wish to visit or use it at all. You are clearly being exploited, and the moment we walk through the door we, the hungry public, will be fleeced by you and your owners for all we have - by high pressure sales techniques, and lies and deceit on costs and prices. Hardly a tightwad, but more of a hardbitten customer fed up with trickery and malpractice.
*The Customer is King  13-May-2009 07:21

 
it's people like you, complete tightwads that can't turn loose of a dollar so that we can try to support ourselves and our families. if you can't afford to tip you should just continue to hang out at your local bag-o-burgers joint.
*stormy  13-May-2009 04:09


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