Elderly disabled lady gets a parking ticket
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Recently, an elderly lady that I have known for many years who cannot walk very far now and has a disabled parking badge was taken out by her carer and the carer parked her car within a disabled parking bay in a car park and displayed the blue disabled badge. |
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The elderly lady was escorted by her carer around the town centre in Blackpool in a wheelchair and the other walking aids were left in the car. When they arrived back at the car, they were shocked to see a Penalty charge Notice (PCN) for £60 due to parking illegally. When querying why a PCN was issued with the parking attendant he showed no sympathy for issuing it. He didn’t offer any advice on going to the office to appeal with the evidence either and so the matter was disputed immediately with the carer going to the council office to query what was going on. |
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When the carer got to the office, the excuse the council gave was that the ink the details had been written on with had faded in the sunlight and due to being unreadable the disabled badge wasn’t valid. Looking at the badge there was an outline of what the details were which anyone with reasonable sight would have been able to read as the faded ink left a stain on the surface. Brainless Local Authorities Constantly Keep Penalising Our Outgoing Ladies for supporting one another and this council is now trying to pin the blame on two more innocent ladies treating them like criminals. This is either a case of some over zealous parking attendant with nothing better to do than penalise disabled people was looking for opportunities to exercise his authority, or maybe another form of tax burden on society to help fill Labour’s coffers. I’d go with the latter where it is just another excuse for the authorities to sponge money off innocent people. After all, the details were written on with ink used within the local Social Services office. It just so happens regular ink is likely to fade in sunlight – so why use it? By: Irene |
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A story in the Camden local paper. A businessman is challenging the many parking tickets that he has received on the grounds that it appears the council was allegedly employing illegal immigrants as parking attendants.
Richard Chaumeton claims that a ticket can't be legal if it is handed out by an illegal immigrant. I don't know the law in this respect but I would have thought the immigration status of the attendant has no bearing on the legality of the ticket. I suppose you can't blame him for trying as he has toted up over £90,000 of tickets.
What is more interesting to me is why were the council employing illegals despite their "robust" employment practices. I hate meaningless management jargon like "robust"; I suppose they will soon be announcing that "lessons will be learnt".
The council are saying that the story is, in any case, not true.
http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/camden_parking_tickets_may_be_illegal_as_wardens_flee_
immigration_checks_1_1111450
Richard Chaumeton claims that a ticket can't be legal if it is handed out by an illegal immigrant. I don't know the law in this respect but I would have thought the immigration status of the attendant has no bearing on the legality of the ticket. I suppose you can't blame him for trying as he has toted up over £90,000 of tickets.
What is more interesting to me is why were the council employing illegals despite their "robust" employment practices. I hate meaningless management jargon like "robust"; I suppose they will soon be announcing that "lessons will be learnt".
The council are saying that the story is, in any case, not true.
http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/camden_parking_tickets_may_be_illegal_as_wardens_flee_
immigration_checks_1_1111450
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hope you'll never experiance what being an olderly is like.
hope you'll never experiance what being an olderly is like.
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I am disabled & get parking tickets al the time in Bradistan, five last year, I have just paid one now which I lost on apeal, I feel better for reading your posts, I thought it was just me getting paranoid, I sit now checking everything, but I still slip up
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This happens a lot in my community.Personally I think the council likes to prey on the innocent and the elderly,preferring to fine them on the spot draconian fines and then saying "I'm only doing my job". That's what the concentration camp guards said when they were executing Jews.
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So you got a parking ticket.Tough.Serves you right.Silly old bag.
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If the badge was not displayed, then why shouldn't the attendant issue a fine? We'd all like to smash parking attendants, but if someone's genuinely in the wrong they are only doing there jobs. People shouldn’t hide being the fact that their disabled or old, they are still subject to the same rules as anyone else.
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karlosthejackel - 20-Jan-10 14:15
If you write the appropriate local council department about unfairly issued parking tickets, they don't even reply to your letter. Very unprofessional! My experience of Local Council offices in this country always brings to mind the word "crooks", whereas having lived in Canada for a number of years, their local council authorities bring to mind the word "honesty". The government in this country should pay their own Council employees better salaries and fringe benefits than they could earn in the private sector, as they wisely do in North America. This attracts a better educated, more intelligent person to apply for government jobs in the first place and you will get less of the rif-raf who are prepared to work for the government for peanuts. Poor salaries attract poor quality brainless staff. As with anything, you get what you pays for!
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Part of the problem is that too many disabled badges are misused by the holder parking where they shouldn't (zebra crossing zigzags, for example) and by holders' relatives when the holder isn't present. Also, why are disabled badge holders exempt from paying charges at toll bridges? Disabled badge doesn't equal poor.
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I had the same thing happen to me!! Was parked on double yellow lines on a street in my town as I had many times before with a disabled badge, I have even watched the vultures(traffic wardens) walk past my car after glancing at it. What makes it soooooooooo different this time is that the plank reckoned that because the double yellow lines had these funny horrizontal lines on them that meant that even with a disabled badge it did'nt permit me to park there. eh??!!! How do you get that?? I told the little weasel he was making it up,he got fly with me and demanded to see my disabled badge,by then the damage was done.Should have run the pratt down!!
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traffic warden protester!! - 17-Feb-09 02:43
The Department of Transport issues blue badges and the information pamphlet which goes with it, but nowhere in it does it say BEWARE although we say you can park on a yellow line, our guidelines do not apply in the borough of Westminster. They are inapplicable. So my father got a fine which I am currently contesting. It's outrageous it should be so hard, and complicated for the elderly to keep mobile.
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Irene's point is well taken. So is MikeP's. There are parking attendants who are on a perpetual power trip, Give them a uniform and a badge and they forget who they really are.
I have a policy. Go to the big whig and file your complaint. I would drop in on the mayor or our member of parliament as an intervenor for mediation, and they always seem prepared to concede, to give me the benefit of the doubt. Am I lucky or what?
If you are snagged by unreasonable sales people who wouldn't budge, ask to see the floor manager. I have on occasion write to the GM or the Customer Service at head office. Whatever you do, ALWAYS hold your tongue and be official, and you WILL get results. At the very least, they will hear you out. Try it.
I have a policy. Go to the big whig and file your complaint. I would drop in on the mayor or our member of parliament as an intervenor for mediation, and they always seem prepared to concede, to give me the benefit of the doubt. Am I lucky or what?
If you are snagged by unreasonable sales people who wouldn't budge, ask to see the floor manager. I have on occasion write to the GM or the Customer Service at head office. Whatever you do, ALWAYS hold your tongue and be official, and you WILL get results. At the very least, they will hear you out. Try it.
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Sam, the tiger - 10-Jan-09 15:41
Isn't it true that such a fine is levied on the registered owner of the vehicle regardless of who drives or drove the vehicle being singled out for citation?
If I lent my car to whoever I chose to lend it to, I am liable as the owner for whatever fines incurred.
If he was involved in a collision, the owner's auto insurance will be called to account financially. The driver may personally face criminally charges if he was found to be culpable owing to excessive speeding or driving under the influence of drugs or liquor.
It is for this reason that we should be hesitant to lend our vehicles to those who are known to be reckless and irresponsible.
If I lent my car to whoever I chose to lend it to, I am liable as the owner for whatever fines incurred.
If he was involved in a collision, the owner's auto insurance will be called to account financially. The driver may personally face criminally charges if he was found to be culpable owing to excessive speeding or driving under the influence of drugs or liquor.
It is for this reason that we should be hesitant to lend our vehicles to those who are known to be reckless and irresponsible.
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Sam, the tiger - 10-Jan-09 15:16
"I got a parking ticket after I parked in a disabled spot whilst out for a meal and it’s not something I would normally do but on this occasion the car park was full and it was getting late and none of the six disabled spaces had been used so common sense kicked in ..."
Right, but these sharks don't know about common sense or pragmatism, they only know about being bloody little Hitlers and meeting targets set by their rapacious masters. They employ thugs, the scum of the earth, and it is time they were outlawed.
At the same time, let's not forget that it is important to protect the needs and rights of the disabled. What would probably be sensible is if say 50% of the disabled spaces were de-restricted outside business and shopping hours, but since when did common sense enter into any equation where local councils are concerned?
Right, but these sharks don't know about common sense or pragmatism, they only know about being bloody little Hitlers and meeting targets set by their rapacious masters. They employ thugs, the scum of the earth, and it is time they were outlawed.
At the same time, let's not forget that it is important to protect the needs and rights of the disabled. What would probably be sensible is if say 50% of the disabled spaces were de-restricted outside business and shopping hours, but since when did common sense enter into any equation where local councils are concerned?
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I got a parking ticket after I parked in a disabled spot whilst out for a meal and it’s not something I would normally do but on this occasion the car park was full and it was getting late and none of the six disabled spaces had been used so common sense kicked in and I enjoyed the meal only to return to find I had a parking ticket from OPC.
OPCServices Parking consultancy (Pirates) have the registered address of The Studio, St Nicholas Close, Elstree, Hertfordshire WD6 3EW so any correspondents with them should be addressed to that address and not the postal address PO Box 956, St Albans AL1 9HJ and it’s worth using registered post so that OPService Parking can not claim to have not received any disputes to parking fines or better still send them a copy of your dispute to enquiries@observices.co.uk. The company registration number is 3182298 but I have been unable to find the address of the company directors (Please let me have them if you can get them). OPC sales department can also be contacted on Tel 0845 130 4230 Fax 0845 130 5430
Please note that a private parking ticket is issued under a breach of contract and it is the driver who is libel for any breach of contract and not the registered keeper of the car and the keeper is under no obligation to disclose who the driver was at the time of the alleged breach of contract so it’s a good job my other half owns the car.
OPCServices Parking consultancy (Pirates) have the registered address of The Studio, St Nicholas Close, Elstree, Hertfordshire WD6 3EW so any correspondents with them should be addressed to that address and not the postal address PO Box 956, St Albans AL1 9HJ and it’s worth using registered post so that OPService Parking can not claim to have not received any disputes to parking fines or better still send them a copy of your dispute to enquiries@observices.co.uk. The company registration number is 3182298 but I have been unable to find the address of the company directors (Please let me have them if you can get them). OPC sales department can also be contacted on Tel 0845 130 4230 Fax 0845 130 5430
Please note that a private parking ticket is issued under a breach of contract and it is the driver who is libel for any breach of contract and not the registered keeper of the car and the keeper is under no obligation to disclose who the driver was at the time of the alleged breach of contract so it’s a good job my other half owns the car.
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Thanks, NickyB. You are a paragon of compassion and good breeding. I don't think we should capitulate to the draw to the lowest common denominator, and neither should we slink away from those who subscribe to it.
Stick around, and maybe the goodness in you will rub off on all who prefer to live on the fringe of plebeianic poor tastes. Keep your invaluable contribution up as you have; the support is there for you. Let the hot and huffy get the stroke.
Stick around, and maybe the goodness in you will rub off on all who prefer to live on the fringe of plebeianic poor tastes. Keep your invaluable contribution up as you have; the support is there for you. Let the hot and huffy get the stroke.
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Sam, the tiger - 6-Jan-09 23:00
Yes, leave off, eddie. I've noticed on this site that there are several rather unpleasant individuals who just log on to say something mean. They would include Eddie, Kodkod54 and SteveP. I think I'll give this place a miss from now on.
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This is the sorry state of society that we have to endure. We have Gestapo style councils with mini-hitler foot soldiers running around, collating as much cash as possible from easy prey. You know the type am referring to - If they had half a brain cell they'd be a lettuce.
Basically, if you drive a car then you must have money. This is the savage and brutal state of play. The moral understanding of a great white shark.
What is the point of persecuting someone that is not solvent (has no money)? No point at all.
This Nazi regime has targets to meet and this involves money.
Basically, if you drive a car then you must have money. This is the savage and brutal state of play. The moral understanding of a great white shark.
What is the point of persecuting someone that is not solvent (has no money)? No point at all.
This Nazi regime has targets to meet and this involves money.
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Attila,
"I think we should remind ourselves that no one wants to be disabled. Those of us who aren't should be grateful, not jealous of a few perceived 'perks'."
That is so true. I completely agree.
"I think we should remind ourselves that no one wants to be disabled. Those of us who aren't should be grateful, not jealous of a few perceived 'perks'."
That is so true. I completely agree.
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can anyone comment about a friends 's parking gripe - she had her elderly mother's out of date and rather tattered disabled parking in the bottom right corner of the car. She drove to a local car park and parked forgetting to remove the diasabled parking badge. When she returned to her vehicle a local council official waitong close by told my friend she was being cautioned for parking and passing off her mother's disabled parking badge as a parking priviledge she could also enjoy. How can my friend prove her mens rae and actus rae ? please email williams846@btinternet.com
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We were in Blackpool for a family holiday in May of this year. One of our daughters is disabled. We parked in the main large central car park displaying our disabled badge. However, we unfortunately had not noticed that we had to park in one of the 10 designated disabled bays when using our disabled badge. When we returned to our car we found the parking ticket. We spoke to the council to appeal to them explaining our difficult situation and that we had genuinely not noticed the sign stating we had to park in one of the 10 designated bays (which were full at the time). However, they felt we should have noticed the sign and were unrelenting stating we had to pay the fine!
Again, like many others no one seems to appreciate the genuine difficulties regarding caring for disabled and being disabled. The Council at Blackpool just seem to enjoy EXTORTING MONIES in this way from unsuspecting tourists! One lady at the car park had received at ticket even though she had purchased a parking ticket! The reason for her parking fine ticket was that in his opinion it was not satisfactorily displayed (even though it was on the windowscreen)!! I am certain these guys are on COMMISSION!!! All I can say is that I hope that they get similar treatment if they are ever disabled and maybe then they would realise the effect of their actions in the past.
It amazes me that Blackpool are trying to welcome tourists and then we are treated like this!!!
Again, like many others no one seems to appreciate the genuine difficulties regarding caring for disabled and being disabled. The Council at Blackpool just seem to enjoy EXTORTING MONIES in this way from unsuspecting tourists! One lady at the car park had received at ticket even though she had purchased a parking ticket! The reason for her parking fine ticket was that in his opinion it was not satisfactorily displayed (even though it was on the windowscreen)!! I am certain these guys are on COMMISSION!!! All I can say is that I hope that they get similar treatment if they are ever disabled and maybe then they would realise the effect of their actions in the past.
It amazes me that Blackpool are trying to welcome tourists and then we are treated like this!!!
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