Car drivers forget Highway Code

"Generalist " says,

"You need to answer some questions......"

Actually , no I don't.

My main concern regarding cyclists is that they keep off of pavements. I have never been hit or frightened by cars on the pavement; I have been hit on several occasions by pavement cyclists and they ride by me at speed and make me jump out of my skin EVERY DAY.

Pavement cyclists are a bloody menace. There are more and more of them every week, they are mostly young fit men who are arrogant, stupid, aggressive, anti-social and careless of other people's welfare or sense of safety.

If they knew they could be indentified and fined or even prosecuted if their actions merited it then perhaps they would keep off of pavements.

Kathleen W,
You need to answer some questions about your suggestion that bicycles should be registered.
Your argument has to be based upon public protection, after-all, it was you who used the term 'DANGEROUS CYCLISTS'. I won't presume any of your answers.

a) Why should bicycles be registered?
b) What purpose would be served by bicycle registration?
c) How many lives would be saved?
d) What percentage of road deaths would be prevented?
e) What would be the likely cost of the scheme? Who would pay?
f) Would this deter cycling?
g) What would be the impact on congestion if a substantial proportion of cyclists started driving?
h) Would other restrictions have far greater cost-effective impacts on road safety?

Such as:
i) Raising the minimum driving age to twenty-five
ii) Introducing automatic bans for serious offences and life bans with custodial sentences for offenders.
iii) Increasing the number of points for offences, or reducing the number of points before loss of licence.
iv) Lowering speed limits in built-up areas to 20 mph.
v) More average speed cameras

Please don't try the cyclists [and horses] don't pay road tax approach [why not pedestrians?], it has been repeated ad nauseam here and elsewhere by people who clearly don't know what they're talking about.
For why, google: Dunning-Kruger road tax site:www.weeklygripe.co.uk

Kathleen W
'don't you agree that bicycles should have registration plates so that DANGEROUS CYCLISTS can also be recorded and reported when they cycle on the pavement or cycle dangerously in the road?'

If cycling were far more common and motorists were all saints who never speeded; jumped red lights; used the phone & etc., THEN AND ONLY THEN THERE MIGHT BE A CASE for the registration of bicycles.

In the real world, the reason why there is no registration for cyclists and they are not required to have insurance, is that the risk posed by cyclists to other road users [including the most vulnerable: pedestrians] is minuscule when compared with even the puniest car or motorcycle. Yes there are very occasional and tragic fatalities that result from the actions of irresponsible cyclists, but a pedestrian is many times more likely to be ki11ed or seriously injured by a motor vehicle on the pavement than by a bicycle. The risk posed to motorists by cyclists is negligible.

It is far more important for public safety to crack down on law-breaking motorists and unlicenced; uninsured motorists and motorcyclists. Who are far more likely to drive unroadworthy vehicles; drive irresponsibly; break the law; be involved in a collision and then drive off.

Generalist

Yes, it would be a good idea to record dangerous car drivers but if cyclists are using cameras for that reason don't you agree that bicycles should have registration plates so that dangerous cyclists can also be recorded and reported when they cycle on the pavement or cycle dangerously in the road?

I hope you reported this to the Police. Increasingly, cyclists are using video cameras to record such driver scum-bags, witha view to prosecution.

Considering the attitude of drivers towards cyclists and pedestrians a largely overlooked section of the Highway Code (I think its section 175) says that a motorist turning into a road where a pedestrian is crossing has to give way.i.e. the pedestrian has priority.In effect this means that to turn a corner above walking pace is dangerous driving

Dont you just love the attitude of drivers and cyclists....i am a motorist and a horse rider. People have no patience on the road, probably because the roads are over-crowded, too many cars, to many people leaving home at the last possible minute and driving like maniacs to get to their destination, regardless of the safety of others and themselves. Dare I say it, but the solution is to ramp the roads in towns and villages, get the Police out of the canteen and onto the roads and start bringing in more draconian punishments for infringements of road safety. Also, we need to find ways of removing cars from the roads, that does not curry favour with the wealthy. Has anyone heard of this thing called public transport? maybe if PT became affordable and available....dream on dream on.....

Jon - in response to your comment "No such thing as 'right of way'. Read The Highway Code please (for the first time in 20 years.)" Male Pedestrian may have been inacurate using the phrase "right of way" but he is actually correct in that he did have "PRIORITY" over trafic turning onto the road he was crossing ! - perhaps you should take your own advice and read the highway code - its covered by rule 170 if you can be bothered to check it before you wrongly attempt to correct another poster ! - Personally I think you are one of many people that THINK they know road law and always believe yourself to be right that cause the majority of dangerous situations on the roads !! Either make sure you are correct or shut the F UP!

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Grey

Audi A3 E Sport TDI

Last of 3 vehicles going through red light at junction of Ribble View Close & Lytham Road.

07:45 15.11.09

I caught up at next set of traffic lights (which they HAD to stop at) and once they got to the 50mph zone he overtook the two in front and sped off.

We were doing 50 so he must have been doing 70.

Not much respect for the law.

Slightly off topic but in the original gripe mentions a place called 'Menlove Gardens'!

How utterly vile. I do hope that it is not compulsory.

For those of us who live in areas with single track roads, cyclistst tearing round corners 2 abreast, it's dangerous. They tend to hold traffic up with an arrogant attitud that is not needed, and consider the roads belong to them. Whilst this does not apply to all cyclists, it is becoming a trend. I have been forced off the road by cyclists in the Inverness area by cyclists ignoring passing places and breaking the law. Once I spoke to one to remind him of the use of passing places, and was give foul abuse. Unpleasant.
Please, be considerate, follow the highway code, and allow everyone to get on with their business. Car drivers are happy to respect cyclists, but cyclists must remember that they are a slow moving, low visability object. Most slow moving vehicles have to carry an orange light.

For those of us who live in areas with single track roads, cyclistst tearing round corners 2 abreast, it's dangerous. They tend to hold traffic up with an arrogant attitud that is not needed, and consider the roads belong to them. Whilst this does not apply to all cyclists, it is becoming a trend. I have been forced off the road by cyclists in the Inverness area by cyclists ignoring passing places and breaking the law. Once I spoke to one to remind him of the use of passing places, and was give foul abuse. Unpleasant.
Please, be considerate, follow the highway code, and allow everyone to get on with their business. Car drivers are happy to respect cyclists, but cyclists must remember that they are a slow moving, low visability object. Most slow moving vehicles have to carry an orange light.