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12-May-2008
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I just wanted to warn everyone not to get sucked in to subscriptions, memberships or insurance policies where they automatically renew.  This has happened to me three times now, twice without realising.

Credit card auto renewal for membership and subscription

The first time was a couple of months ago when my car insurance was due.  As usual I shop around every year to get the best deal.   The day before my renewalI phoned up the new insurance company to take out their policy.  At the end of the week I got a new insurance certificate from my old insurance company.  What annoyed me most was the fact that the details were all wrong as I had changed car to coincide with my new insurance policy and therefore the renewal notice I had received a couple of weeks earlier was not relevant.  The thing I found cheeky was I realised that they had taken nearly £700 off my credit card to pay for the policy (I always pay in one go).  This was nearly 2½ times more than what I had just paid for my new policy elsewhere. Luckily enough after a quick phonecall they did refund the money back to me.  The interesting thing was when I took out the policy with the new company this did tell me that they would be holding my payment details on file for automatic renewal upon which I told them I would like to opt out.   Cheeky monkeys!

The second incident was with a Babysitting company.  I urgently needed a babysitter one night as a whole bunch of us were going out on a celebration.  I found this babysitting company, signed up for 3 months (their minimum membership) and they found me a very good babysitter for the night. I have just received my Visa bill and noticed that a payment of £12.75 has been deducted off my account.  I phoned them up and explained that I did say at the time that I only wanted membership for the minimum term.  The lady I spoke to said that it’s all automatic and that they can’t refund but can cancel my membership.  I think this is very off as it wasn’t actually explained to me when I originally took out the subscription.

Now the third thing was a free membership to Screenselect.  My free membership was a total nightmare, I was supposed to receive at least 5 DVD’s in the first 2 weeks and I only received 3 and 2 of them were damaged and unwatchable.  Unfortunately I was away at the time I needed to cancel my automatic membership payment and upon telling them this and about how unhappy I was with the service they said they could not refund me but would give me another 5 days free membership.  Well those 5 days had already passed, so was worth nothing to me.  Anyway, after a lot of emails back and forth and getting nowhere, I decided continued my membership until the end of the month and cancel it.

So, what’s this business with companies holding your details and automatically renewing your membership without actually getting your consent first or even reminding you that your membership is about to end and they will automatically be renewing it.  And worst of all they don’t do refunds!  Moral of the story is, think twice when paying out for a subscription or membership for anything and check whether they do automatically renew because you might end up paying out for something you don’t want later on.


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I've had a similar issue with the AA. I moved house over 4 years ago and forget to tell them my new address.. They've been taking £160ish every year since then and sending the renewal letters to my old address. I should have checked my statements but the account I used is for my standing orders and rarely changes so I rarely check it! I've asked them to cancel but their terms say I have to stay a member until August, so that's 5 years of membership without realising or having any benefit from it. So allowing someone to renew automatically has cost me nearly £800 - and suprise suprise.. I can't have my money back. Never again!
*Spen  07-Mar-2008 13:29

 
This is exactly what has happened with me and the AA. According to them I set up an Annual Direct Debit with them last August when I took out AA Membership for the first time. I certainly don't remember doing this and it would never have been my first choice of payment method. I found out yesterday that they had automatically debited my old bank account which I hadn't checked for a while. It had taken me into overdraft too. I called the AA and they weren't apologetic at all. They said I had agreed to it last year and they could not refund it as my renewal date was more than 14 days ago. They claim they wrote to me about this last month but I have not to my knowledeg received anything from them. I also have not received any written confirmation of my renewal or new AA membership card etc. What's the betting they don't actually send confirmation and card out to anyone until it's past the 14 days period anyway so you can't cancel? Worse still I got the distinct impression this conversation was routine to them and happened to people on a regular basis.
*Katherine  14-Sep-2007 09:23

 
This is precisely what is wrong with the Direct Debit system in contrast with the older Standing Order system. The latter was more or less fully in the control of the payer: no of payments to be made when they were to be made and so on. They were simply a contract between the payer and the bank. Direct Debits are very different contractually. Notice how if you unlucky enough to have insufficient funds in the bank account to make the payments all kinds of charges are levied on you.

And cancelling Direct Debits is technically more difficult.

Insist on a standing order and refuse the Direct Debit.

Further, where there are annual subscriptions involved: that is usually all insurances, magazine subscriptions etc., all these providers should send you an annual statement of amounts they have received, with a box to sign (or info to go online) for permission to renew the service.

Beware of mobile phone insurance, this goes on and on long after you have changed your mobile telephone number and handset and service provider. Always refuse this and go elsewhere.
*Grouchosaurus  08-Jul-2006 09:48

 
One thing worth noting is that if you do get these companies taking money without your approval you can contact your bank to get the money back. I found that out when my utilities company decided to take double payment one month. The utility company refused to refund the payment and said they would just count it as next months payment. I contacted my bank and had the money back in 24 hrs.
*khainestar  14-Jun-2006 12:02

 
The thing is who in this day and age actually has time to read every word in the small print. Besides they normally tell you the important stuff when you go through an application on the phone.
*JenWren  07-Jun-2006 16:31

 
Don't know what happened, but it cut short the reply, so here it is again.


Goes to show, you DON'T read the SMALL print before signing anything.

Getting caught once is bad enough, but three times.

ASK, read,check, before signing,or use CASH,and DON'T use your cards.
*Willy  07-Jun-2006 05:57

 
oes to show, you DON'T read the SMALL print before signing anything.

Getting caught once is bad enough, but THREE times.
*Willy  07-Jun-2006 05:54


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