There is no kid free zone

em111002, we all know bringing up kids can be difficult in these pc times but they do need discipline. I for one would never criticise a parent who had to tell off a badly behaving child in public. The problem usually seems to be that when a child is told off they ignore the parents because they know the telling off doesn't actually mean anything and threats made will not be carried out.
When you tell a child "if you do that again I will _ _ _ (fill in the blank)" you MUST mean it and the child must know that you mean it.
I do know people bringing up small children now and they seem to be managing very well. In fact their children who are only 2 & 3 have very good manners and know that when they are told "no" it really means no.
You have to start when they are young.
Are you going on holiday this year? If you are perhaps you could tell us where so we can all go somewhere else & avoid you & your brats!

Who I think I am is a mother who brought up two boys who are now hard working and reliable who didn't give us much trouble as teenagers because they knew where the limits were.
I presume you are someone whose children behave appallingly all the time & don't care whether they disturb or even injure other people.
I do understand that these days it is more difficult to discipline them but is giving up altogether a sensible option?
How would you feel if one of your children dive bombed off the side of a swimming pool & killed someone? Would you even care?

Who do you think you are. I would just like you to be put in my position for one day. In this day and age it is sometimes impossible to control your children. If you shout at them you a look at as a daranged parent, if you smack your child you are done for child abuse. If a child wants to shout and misbehave then there isn'tvery much a parent can do about it.

It's not so much the fact that kids are around all the time, it's their behaviour & lack of parental control that is the problem.
I could have gone home from the aforementioned holiday in a box because the boy in question had not been made to understand that he needed to consider other people before launching himself off the side of the pool like a guided missile.

Children tend to be more by our side these days. There was a time when kids would go off playing down the fields on the swing by the blackwaters.

I used to be out everyday of the holidays, off walking here there and everywhere, all of us together packed lunch and all.

It's a little bit different today. There's this devious, murderous 'Ian Huntley' element amongst us that have an insatiable desire to kill children and dump them in woods.

I'm not writing that this element has never been amongst us, sure it has. There has been a great increase in today's society.

I'm quite content that there is no kid free zone.

Since narrowly avoiding having my neck broken by a large boy dive bombing into the swimming pool I was standing in a few years ago I at least try to avoid too many kids on holiday. Last year we went to an adult exclusive hotel, the Ascos Coral Beach, near Paphos on Cyprus. YES, it was a CHILD FREE ZONE. 2 weeks of peace & quiet. I would recommend it to anyone.

CHAINSAWS!!?? AXES!!??

They make too much of a mess. Best use a nail gun.

Can I just say that not everyone lets their kids go wild when out in public. I for one don't. My daughter knows her limits and is generally very well behaved when we are out.
Unfortunately we have to take them with us sometimes to get stuff done. My husband works and so do I (part time). I don't have family nearby so if I need to get stuff done then my daughter has to come with me. We need to eat therefore I have to take her shopping with me to supermarket. I not going to say she never has her moments because of course she does and believe me it frustrates us more than it does you.

Do you think we like having a toddler screaming at us?? of course we don't but if we tell them off in public you can guarantee someone will give us a look of disgust and if we don't the same happens again. We just can't win.

At the end of the day we were all kids once so how about you all become a little more tolerate and give us mum's a break.

I have a job where I go into peoples houses all day ,come and join me some day,the mothers stand there smoking, the kids abuse me and the plasma blinds me

I think there's something in the gripe. I'm a Brit, but I am astonished at how bizzarely we bring our children up. We feed them crap, let them watch TV too long, and generally only take them out to kiddie venues where they go bowling or spend money or eat more crap. This means that when we do try to rejoin the human race with them in tow, they charge around like utter lunatics like terriers let off the leash. I think we should get the French and Italians in to give us some guidance. Maybe then they would upset the child free less and be easier to handle.

Shocked: Sometimes the extreme is meant to shock, otherwise no one would take notice. He or she is only a little kid playing, but to some it can cause real discomfort and anxiety. Not everyone loves and can tolerate kids running amok. Some of us just want a quiet life and to be left alone in the company of grown ups.

I havent even read any of these comments,I just had to say that I am amazed that this gripe has been allowed to be posted!!!

CHAIN SAWS???????