Speed cameras not the answer
11-May-2008
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My gripe this week is with speed cameras!  "Speed Kills" is the message that is filling the current advertising campaign; however, in my opinion, it is not speed alone that kills but dangerous driving.  The problem with speed cameras is that they are not able to make this differentiation.

We all speed at sometime during our driving experience, even if not intentionally.  Sometimes it is necessary to exceed the speed limit to keep safe on the road, to manoeuvre out of a dangerous situation for example.  Speeding on an empty motorway at night is not the same as speeding in a built up area, where children might run into the road.  Speed cameras are unable to judge an offence individually and therefore penalise each offence as being equal when they are clearly not.

Speed cameras do not penalise drivers for speeding, we all speed now and then.  I think it would be more appropriate to say that speed cameras penalise drivers for getting caught.

The most dangerous offenders of breaking speed limits and threatening road safety are probably the ones that know where all the camera points are and take deliberate measures to avoid getting caught.

Speed cameras are not the answer, punished for being caught

Whilst I agree that there is a place for prevention and increased speed awareness, I feel that speed cameras do not really work to make the roads a safer place; they merely make driving a less pleasurable experience.


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I was pulled over by a Policeman who issued me with a Fixed Penalty Notice for doing 45 mph in a 30 mph zone. I wasn't. Therefore, I want to find out how to contest this ticket and would be interested to hear of anyone else's similar experiences and grateful for any advice please..? Cheers.
*Monkey  10-Oct-2007 12:27

 
I got a ticket but the camera has not got a calibration certificate can I get out of it
*jsagi123  15-Sep-2007 15:19

 
Well done speedy..... I just keep on stopping my car (out of sight of course), walk over and photograph them, they hate it. My latest one is to wear my high visibilty vest and hang around the scamera trap which openly slows everyone down.... They usually ask me to move but I don't and won't as they have NO legal right to do anything to you, if my hobby is car spotting thats up to me!!!!, free country. The last Scamera man said I can be done for obstructing justice, I said well if that is true then go ahead..... I'm still waiting!!!!

On a serious note...
If the government and local council gestapo really want to stop us speeding put up those bright warning signs that flash Slow Down.... fact they work many times better than any camera, fact they cost less to maintain, I work in that industry and have seen all the figures, fact our greedy little friends cannot now afford to now lose the revenue stream... . It's also been verified in tests on the continent that scameras in town are a cause of lack of concentration and directly responsible for some accidents.....
*peter tavy  11-Sep-2007 23:20

 
Just got a speeding noitce - caught on camera doing 43 in a 30mph coned area. Trouble is I was just following the flow of traffic because my speed was not working - whats the chances I could use this as an excuse?
*joncy  09-Sep-2007 00:16

 
Sam.. You have a case as there is an allowance for the fact that your speedo is not calibrated. The standard allowance is 10% plus 2mph. So in your case you should not be prosecuted until you were doing 36 or more. Stick to your guns and insist that you were only doing thirty.
*ex cop  15-Aug-2007 21:46

 
"I have to admit that I have been a naughty boy and last week I went past a mobile camera van and was so annoyed I went passed 5 times slowing all the traffic down in the end a policeman got out and to a picture of my car as I passed"

hehe nice one mate.
*speedy  15-Aug-2007 20:28

 
I have to admit that I have been a naughty boy and last week I went past a mobile camera van and was so annoyed I went passed 5 times slowing all the traffic down in the end a policeman got out and to a picture of my car as I passed.
*Mick  16-Jul-2007 02:13

 
"speed cameras do not really work to make the roads a safer place; they merely make driving a less pleasurable experience. "

Thats exactly the point, dont forget, the government is left wing socialist. If they could, they would eradicate all (private) cars, and have us all using sweaty smelly trams like those found in old East Europe, or Russia. Their aim is to stop as many people from driving as possible.

A list of some of the things they have used to do so;

"Global Warming", "Congestion" (caused mostly by the lowering of speed limits, lack of government funding for new roads and bad traffic management systems), Speed Cameras, Lower Speed Limits, Carbon Emmissions, "Public safety", increase of the range of driving offences, increased parking warden powers (you can now be fined if a Parking warden thinks you have left your engine running unnecessarily), increase of fixed penalties, lowering of drink drive limit, increase of 'street furniture' (speed bumps etc) etc etc.

I watched a Cops on Camera program the other night. There were 2 officers in an unmarked veichle who were apparently on 'anti-terrorist' patrol. This involved driving around the roads with a automatic number plate reader and pulling over anyone with a number plate that was not registered with the system. I wonder how many terrorists they catch this way. I suspect not many, though they did get alot of uninsured drivers. Are these people now considered terrorists by the government? Or is it the general motoring population who are terrorists?
*voter  15-Jun-2007 12:03

 
Iv'e had a camera detector for the past two years and its worth every penny.No fines, No points and no prangs.I must admit I did get it to beat the traps,But the funny thing is, it's made me slow down cause I'm now more aware of all the dangers. In other word it has made me think what could happen at speed.I like to think I'm a better driver now and that gives me a great deal of pleasure.
*Pat  12-Jun-2007 23:11

 
I was caught doing 34mph in a 30, the camera faced the other way ( I was travelling out of it!)is it worth contesting?Also, Ive heard of speeding rehab??In london, you take a class for the day,"learn your lesson!"and you dont recieve any points on your licence.Im in the midlands.Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks
*sam  13-May-2007 22:00

 
Of course the real problem is the concentration on speed and speed alone as a measure of road safety. Yet breaking the speed limit contributes to only 5% of the accidents. According to government stats, the biggest single cause of accidents is lack of concentration.

So if people think that 30mph is safe outside a school they need their heads examined. Yet that's what most people think - because they're told that staying inside the limit equals safe driving. Madness.

Same thing on motorways. 70mph is safe on the motorway in average conditions - but what are they? It's way too fast in heavy spray or fog -- and way too slow on a lightly trafficked road on a sunny day.

Speed limits are too blunt a weapon to be used as the sole metric for safe driving. Trouble is, with the police no longer policing the roads and the cameras touted as a wonder drug for fixing road safety (an assertion the stats don't in fact support, but that's another argument), the roads will continue to become less safe. And kids will get killed because drivers believe the government's proclamations about 30mph being a safe speed. Which it might be but, in many cases it isn't.

People need to make up their own minds and take responsibility for their actions, not abrogate them to a 30mph road sign planted by an officious local councillor for political reasons.
*liteswap  27-Feb-2007 17:44

 
Speed cameras, LTI laser guns, no matter what they use ,I can not believe that they save the number of lives as stated. Of cause speeding can kill, so can a slow driver with little expeience. It is also a known fact that the second, or moment ,you take your eyes off the road, to keep a check on your speedo this is the time when pending accident appears in front of you. An routine check on speedo and warning indicators is essential, but in a SPEED TRAP area you do this byfar, too often,. If the speed traps, speed cameras, lasers ect were there to ensure the safety of your self and others on the road ,then we would all agree their worth. Unfortunately as we know this is not so, their real use is to make money. This is my opinion, and we still have free speech in this country.
*Jono  29-Jan-2007 10:10


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