Motorcycles and the law
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I have held a motorcycle licence for over twelve years and I’m just curious to understand something that doesn’t really make sense to me.  It’s regarding the law on vehicle tax, insurance and crash helmets etc.

Some rather dodgy looking bikers at the Weymouth kite festival - wonder who they are!

It all started one day as I was watching an old bloke on an electric scooter whizz down the road with no crash helmet on, no registration number plate, and one would therefore assume no road tax or MOT.  I presume that he wouldn’t have insurance either in that case, so my question is, is this all perfectly legal?

Okay, so now let’s come round to your bog standard bicycle.  You can actually get an electric or petrol motor to fit to your bike which will kick in and give you a little bit of extra oomph when you need it.  However, these vehicles still don’t have to have a registration number plate.  They still do not require an MOT, road tax or insurance either, even though it should now be classed as a motorised bicycle ergo a motorcycle!

So my question is, why can’t I ride my motorised bicycle (a Kawasaki GT750) on a bicycle path, when my taxation class is BICYCLE!  It’s all a bit silly really isn’t it?  Surely I should be able to take my motorbike anywhere a bicycle is allowed to go (i.e. a designated cycle route or cycle paths etc.)  I should even be able to ride on a BMX track if I so wish!

As the owner of a motorised bicycle I should have the option, like cyclists to wear protective clothing as and when or IF I see fit (or can be bothered as it happens) - that includes the motorcycle crash helmet.  After all, cyclists aren’t required by law to wear a crash helmet are they?  I’d like to know what other people think on this issue.


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ELECTRIC ASSISTANCE on a bike is exempt up to 15mph but petrol or diesel, however low the speed, has to have tax/ins/MOT on the road. I have a Cycle Master as a collectors item (little petrol engine mounted inside a bicycle wheel) which you fit in place of a normal back wheel on a push bike; it has a DVLA registration document, though I've not looked into the full current legalities for registering it on the road now (it is from 1953!)
*bobharrison115  14-Nov-2009 20:48

 
You CAN ride your motorised bicycle on a cycle path, providing you chop the weight to 40 Kg or less, replace the engine with one rated no more than 250 watts (about 1/3 HP), and limit its speed to 15 mph. Oh, and don't forget to add some pedals.
That's the law fella, and we're stuck with it.
*Oldbiker.  23-Oct-2009 13:52

 
You CAN ride your motorised bicycle on a cycle path, providing you chop the weight to 40 Kg or less, replace the engine with one rated no more than 250 watts (about 1/3 HP), and limit its speed to 15 mph. Oh, and don't forget to add some pedals.
That's the law fella, and we're stuck with it.
*Oldbiker.  23-Oct-2009 11:43

 
I totally agree with Adam, what a ludicrous thing to say. Okay you think you should have the option to wear a helmet......hospital staff should also have the option not treat you when you sustain a head injury in that case! Only a moron would fail to protect themselves.
*meh.  16-Oct-2009 06:16

 
"As the owner of a motorised bicycle I should have the option, like cyclists to wear protective clothing as and when or IF I see fit (or can be bothered as it happens) - that includes the motorcycle crash helmet."
This just made me cringe.
As much as I agree with the scooter part, if you're a motorcyclist and feel that you don't need to wear proper protection, especially a helmet, then you shouldn't be allowed on the road. Frankly that's one of the stupidest things I've read in a long time.
*Adam  15-Oct-2009 23:04

 
hi. my son was pulled over by cops on his motorbike last nyt. said his number plate not
right. he only bought bike 3 wks ago, with MOT til june 10. insured etc. police gave him £60
fine! I always thought you had 7days to correct any problems with vehicles, as long as they
werent dangerous. Should he just pay up? he is disabled & on low income.
*shep  23-Aug-2009 16:18

 
As Cyclist who is now going through the process of doing my motorcycle test, I do agree with this Blog, Why shouldn't electric scooters have insurance and a safety test (mot)? Ok they don't do more than 8 mph (so they say). I have been riding a cycle on a cycle path at a safe speed, which according to the gizmo on my handle bar has told me 12 mph, as one of these electric scooters has come bombing past me so I think that they should have some sort of safety check at least yearly. The problem with a motorcycle it's a bit heavier than a cycle or a moped, which anyone that has been hit by one will tell you that, even at a speed of less than 5 mph. As a cycle way is still a footpath therefore pedestrians have right of way by Law (Which most cyclist's do not take notice of ) and they say about road rage, try being a pedestrian on a cycle path, It would not be practical for a motorcycle to be using a cycle path, I think, I would rather be hit by a bicycle at 10mph than have a moped let alone anything bigger hit me at all, The thing is a cycle stops when it hits you a motorised bike may not, I don't use a cycle helmet but would do if the laws said so, But I do and would always use a crash helmet and a full jacket with protectors and have my legs covered when riding my motorcycle. Yes that is by choice (who wouldn't want to), I have seen a head after a crash at 30 mph and watched a paramedic pick up bits of it, its not a nice sight,
I think that its about time that the Government Looked at the taxation classes of motorcycles as you can tax a 1000cc car cheaper than a 175cc motorcycle.
*Motorcyclist/cyclist  10-Aug-2009 11:00

 
"Why would you not want to wear a crash helmet?! Have you seen the mess a car, tree, concrete etc does to a persons body? I once saw a picture from A&E of a motor cyclist basically with half his face missing. You could just about make out his tongue hanging limp at the front and the 2 eyes at the top - but no nose and no jaw!"

That was actually a failed suicide attempt. Its descibed though on the interweb as a accident.
*Bungle  22-Jun-2009 12:54

 
is there a search link that any1 knows of that I could use to check if an engine I bought is stolen or not as the I only just noticed the engine numbers don't match the ones on the log book (v5) also what do I do about it? thanks for any help.
*madrat  21-Jun-2009 19:13

 
can I ride a motorcycle with side car without passing motorcycle test
*pepe  10-Apr-2009 18:08

 
Dont you (motorcyclists) start having a go at cyclists too. You, of all road users should have some empathy. Your motorcycle came about from the bicycle. I'm a biker too and I'd rather pick on car drivers.
*cyclist/motorcyclist/driver/pedestrian  30-Mar-2009 21:50

 
hi do you have to have mirrors on a bike for a mot
*leegsx  29-Dec-2008 20:20


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