CSA, fathers rights and paternity issues

i have just found out after 13 years that im not the father of a child i thought for custody from his mother. She has tricked me all this time into thinking hes mine. She doesnt know that i Know hes not mine. A dna test has been done, but i believe a further test will have to be done. Im deverstated and angry. She will get whats coming to her, it will be pay back.

My husband has been fighting for 15years to find out if a girl is his!! the CSA have told this girls mother that ma hubby has said he wont do DNA! so have said he IS the dad! but that is a load of bull s**t as my hubby has been to lawyers,cab office even invited the CSA into our home to get this sorted with DNA!! why do they twist truth about thing? when the lawyer called the CSA they said the mother always knows who the father of her child is!! REALLY!! am a woman who has 2kidz from my first marriage and think the CSA should be shut done as they do more harm than good!!
The CSA dont give 2 hoots about peoples feeling at all! they just have the guys hung drawn and quartered just because 1 person says hes the daddy! not good enough!!
I even said to them so if i said the guy that stays in the big house at the bottom of my street is the daddy to my wee boy i can get child support? they said no thats not how it works! i said really coz thats what your doing! because you said a woman always knows who the father of her child is! and without DNA i can do anything!! x
I really dont know how the people who work for the CSA can sleep well at night knowing how many peoples life they are playing with!! :) x

Well sorry but if you are willing to have intimate relations then it is inevitable that you may father a child. Put something on the end of it, job done, it isn't the womans responsibility it is both! As for the woman is in control, youtube abortion videos and see how many women would go through that...you are happy for the fun so the consequences are yours as well! And before you all jump on me I am happily married with two kids but my sister has had hell from the so called father of her child, a man she was seeing who finished it as soon as baby was made!

I totally can relate to: thefox01
I had a one night stand about 3 years ago with a girl I didn't know. The morning after I asked if she was on the pill, She said 'yes', panic over back to normal Life.
WRONG! She wrote a letter to me after about 6 months since the one night stand telling me that i was the father of this child (I still cannot be sure to this day that the child is mine, but you always presume the worst). I was only in my teens at the time and I was so upset and angry that this woman had dropped the bombshell on me, giving no option for me. She wanted to meet me, we met, I told her I wanted nothing to do with her or her child. This was unplanned, unwanted and I had no choice, she did. She accepted my decision that I wanted nothing from her and she said "at the time" wanted nothing from me and would leave me alone.
WRONG AGAIN. 2 years down the line I have the same brown envelope shoved through my door off the CSA saying that I need to pay 15% of my salary. I work hard for what little money I get in, i don't live out of my means and just get by. These payment will leave me with nothing. Solicitor says there is nothing I can do apart from DNA test, which I will do. This has caused all sorts of stress in my life and as a result lost a long term girlfriend, struggling at work and I am now taking anti-depressat drugs. Yes a child is born and didn't have choice about being born... but that makes 2 of us, she was the only one in control of the situation the whole time and could of stopped it. If I can avoid giving her anything at all I will. If the child is mine and turns up at my door in years to come I will explain exactly what happened and I will feel no emotion or sympathy towards it. Men have no rights on this matter and it's just all a bit to easy for girls to get themselves into a situation like this and have complete control. The CSA system has to be challenged and hopefully for the next case like this there might be some legislation in place. I am writing to my MP.
Every other bloke out there like me... I feel for you..... but don't let the bastards grind you down!!

Oh dear!
Mother of two you are angry about it aren't you?
My guess is your blokes got a deduction from earnings order placed on his wages for his 'other' family & it pisses you off!!!!!
Life just ain't fair is it ;)

csa needs closing down,yes i am a woman with kids of my own and i have seen them destory peoples lifes. A woman should get a job and support her own kids, she is the one who choose to bring them into this world and if they want the father to foot the bill they should pass the custody of the child over to them as who would want to pay for something they never have? I cant wait untill the day they are shut down!!

When I got divorced I was very generous and gave my ex-all the proceeds of the house sale, had paid all her bills up until the time she moved out by my credit card and I also took on joint loans etc. Despite this she called in the CSA. They took so long to calculate the payments that I was £2300 in debt in the end. They refused to take into account she had been given money, and I had joint loans and credit card debts as a result and that I was paying double the agreed maintenance for our son by paying her bills. They also assessed the rental income from a few mortgaged properties I had before we were married. They were negative equity, so she was happy for me to keep them as part of a clean break agreement.
I applied for a better paying job at my work in order to help pay bills. The CSA increased the payments. I was having trouble getting to work. I had a new partner and a daughter and took care of her 3 children as well. With all the worry and stress I became ill and quit my job and eventually, after 6 months, I got a locally low paid job that was low stress. The CSA means tested me and I was "nil assessed" as I could not afford to pay on such a low wage and with 4 children to take care of. I managed to sell my flats for a small profit as they had started to come out of negative equity and as I was getting behind with mortgage payments it was better than losing them. I paid off the CSA arrears. (My son's inheritance now gone )
Then the CSA brought in a "new" system. They told my ex to close the old case and wait 12 weeks and open a new case. The new system did away with means testing and took 15% of ones wage.
This she did. I thought that she had closed the case as she was remarried and had a new house all paid for and was happy and did not need the hastle of all the forms. The CSA tried to open the "new" case but as they had not properly closed the "old" case the computers would not let them open it. They also lost my file and had to re-create it using computer copies. So it took 18 months to open the new case. In the meantime I was not informed there was a new case and therefore was not putting any money away. I got a call at work from the CSA to tell me I was now £2600 in debt. I was angry and shocked. I refused to pay as no one had told me. They started a DEO from my wages. I went to a tribunal, but the chairman was corrupt and knew who paid his wages. He refused to ask the CSA to produce any evidence that they had properly opened a new case. He spent all his time asking why I had not paid any maintenance when it was obvious I had as there was a DEO. I appealed but the appeal was refused.(same chairman looks at the case). I went to ICE and they supposedly investigated and found the CSA had opened the case properly.They cannot be independent! And yet to this day I have never seen any evidence to prove the CSA informed me there was a new case. Even the finance form that I should have filled out was filled by someone else using computer data. My file revealed that the "initial effective date" was 18 months after they say. Then they backdated it after the event putting me in debt.
Fast forward several years and I did not have to support my son due to his age. Also my employers stopped deducting payments as the CSA said I was up-to-date and the debt all paid. The case was to be closed. A year later, I had changed jobs and received a letter from the CSA saying that a DEO had been setup on my new job to take assessed money from my wages! I called to ask why. I was informed that it was a mistake and the CSA actually owed me over-paid £153.04.
A year later I called the CSA to ask why I had not received a "case-closed" and the £153.04 they owed me. I was told that they had been trying to contact me and that I owed £1600! Lucky for me I had kept all my paperwork and sent wage slips detailing all the payments taken from my wages. (The CSA were not bothered in contacting my old employers about payments). I managed to prove (I Think) that they should have closed the case and that I had paid all I owed. I have so far not received a reply. No case closed nor my £153.04.
If that is not bad enough I split from my partner as she started an affair behind my back. I left her in her rented home with all the furniture and moved. She has worked only 2 weeks in the past 12 years since we have been together. As I said before I supported her and her 3 children and our daughter. It took me some time to adjust and get on my feet. Her new partner, who is working, lives with her and pretends to live in a flat. I agreed to pay a small amount towards supporting our daughter but at first my partner refused as it would affect her benefit. I paid some into her bank account directly and she got angry. Now the CSA have contacted me to make an assessment. It bothered me as I, again have been generous. She has benefits coming in and her partner's wage as well. She did say that he has to pay CSA for his daughter and arrears but they have no overheads as benefits pays this. It may be that she was successful in claiming disability due to a bowel complaint and that this benefit will not be affected by me paying support. But I think she is evil as I tried to pay her support but she refused to accept it. The make matters worse whne our daughter was born my partner put "father unknown" on the birth certificate as I was still not divorced at the time. While we lived together I never bothered adding my name to the certificate. but now we have separated and I am due to pay CSA. I wanted to get my named added as the father. But for some reason my ex-partner refuses to do so. So here I am about to pay child support when I have no parental rights and am wondering whether I might not be the father afterall! I hope I am her father but will probably have to get a DNA test to prove it and go to court to get my name added to her birth certificate.

thanks for this, feeling much better after reading other people in the same situation, after hearing I (not a parent myself) got a small raise at work my partner's ex-wife contacted the CSA and they decided he should pay more. As he physically could not give her any more money I now have to pay more rent than him on the three bedroom house we keep ALL WEEK (not just two nights a week) which means she got my raise in her pocket. She also gets all the child benefit, and pays no rent herself, nor does she work. My partner is not an absent father and spends way more than two nights a week with the kids and in fact we took them away for two weeks last year. how could you feel proud of yourself scrounging like this?!

Full of s**t....!!!!!
You wouldn't get shared custody if you were homeless!!!!
Get a life

my story starts very much the same she ran off with a lazy scamming cheat (hope one day karma happens) I ended up on the street. after 4 years in court trying to get some of my life back I got shared custody but still remained homeless and broke, from their I got my self back on my feet found good people who helped, starting with part time for 7 months I then informed the Cash Steeling Ass#@ls about being taken on full time. they got back to me 2 months later saying I had back dated payments for 9 months at a cost of £2800 and for 7 months on ESA I only got £170 month. csa took every penny I had .i consequently lost my new partner and ended back on the street which lost me my job, this ended with me in hospital with severe stress, after nearly a year I have now returned to work to be subject to the csa fu+k up once again. As I had not taken a phone call at work from csa they put my payments up even more. I had been in contact with them but they have lost any contact calls apparently I also have an advisor with the homeless shelter I am with who don't really now what to do as non of it makes sense....i feel dead in side.. really don't want to end up back in hospital....i just can't believe the mentality of the csa. they don't care for people this is going to effect every child and make people more desperate, in my situation I can't even see my child due to the shelter I am in and the lack of money. I will before I go have a full documentation of what has happend in my situation and hope it will help someone to avoid what has been done to me

I am a brilliant father to a son I raised on my own and a 'low life' father to my two other children!

1) Because of a money grabbing mother who has had £ 106,000 out of me in divorce and child maintenance.

2) Because I am a criminal in the eyes of the CSA, Politicians and Government!

NEVER gain, wil I do ANYTHING public spirited, charitable or to assist any councillor or politician. Shove your AV referendum where the sun don't shine, and any future ballot papers in the same place!

I too am absolutely appalled by the way fathers are treated am also a female. I am the partner of a father of two who has, for the last 2 and a half years (since his split from his ex) paid an agreed amount per month for the children (the amount recommended by the calculation on the Csa website) but since I have come in to his life she has tried everything to get more money. He does not earn any more now that he did before he met me but the Csa have to investigate. He has no actual evidence that he has had his kids stay over for one night every weekend for 2 and a half years and as a result, they may believe her lies (that he only sees his kids 'occasionally').... if so, he will have to pay an additional £40.... The Csa should take into account both parents income and outgoings (she earns more money than him and has less outgoings). My partner is fighting to make ends meet as it is and has been a brilliant father who has been completely honest with everyone!! Why should he be penalised???

I am appalled by the way the CSA treat fathers ( I am a woman!) I have just written to my MP. If you are treated badly and unfairly by an employee of the government - which is what the CSA is, then you need to put it all in writing to your MP, the more people that do this the better, because it needs to be stopped! Human rights don't appear to be considered when dealing with fathers! Write to your MP's! Its a disgrace! Believe me, your MP will react immediately because he wants and needs your vote.

The CSA just see all non resident parents as scum.
I contacted the CSA years ago when I became full time employed. I rang them 5 times and sent them 3 letters but nothing was ever done. Due to the payments they asked for before being so low I had told my ex that anthing she needed ie school uniforms trips ect just let me know. Since then I have got a morgage.
End of last september I received a letter from them saying they are doing a review. I gave them the information which they lost and had to get again) and then they told me I am to ay £100 a week. This was at the end of december. They then said that the date of the review was for 30th august so the figure was backdated to then making me in arrears. They then said I am to pay an extra £25 I week to clear the arrears so I am now paying £125 a week all for 1 child. I take home pay is only £355 a week.
My daughter also does dancing that I have payed for since she was 3 years old (now 13) 3 times a year they do a test which is extra money.
My x has decided that she isnt going to help towards the test price. £60 next saturday. Her only reason is because I said I would sort out the dancing when I first got her into it 10 years ago. The money I pay for the csa is supposed to be for my daughters upkeeo and activities. She said she is skint because she has just had a £200 gas bill. She had ust received £700 off the csa that I payed over december.

Understand all that you are saying. Some women are bad and some men are bad in these situations. It always seems to me that the good guy always gets shafted. I'll type my story later when I have a spare 5 hours. Must have paid over 50,000 quid to the CSA (Cash suckers anonymous). She has the house, the car a new husband - it's all wrong.

The csa should be abolished it is a complete waste of tax payers money . it should be replaced with a mediation service .This is woman versus man .

I left the uk to go and work in germany I informed the csa and was told on the phone account closed I admit I owed them 2400 pound my assesment was 15 pound a week I was in germany for 9 months when I returned to uk I was told by csa account wasnt closed and I now owed 3600 ? my phone conversation never happened in there eyes there is no physical or written proof that the child is mine I cant afford a dna test also how does 2400 jump 1200 in 9 months at 15 per week the csa as ruined my life I cant afford to live im better off on dole as I only pay 5 per weeki have a 3000 pound debt and I also got a liabillty order while I was in germany

In which other country do people get money given to them for nothing? Britain is known throughout the world as 'Treasure Island'. That is why they queue up in France, because they can scam all the hard earned money from those who work and contribute by being allowed to claim all unsundry!

It is for me and me ALONE to make financial arrangements for my children. NOT a politician, NOT a pen-pushing-bonus seeking-incompetent thief at the CSA/CMEC/DWP.

£4 billion pounds uncollected? I want ALL of my money back+interest+damages.

I hate the CSA my partner has his wages garnished every month and he has paid on time for years. Today they decided he owed hundreds of pounds which they tried to take all at once. Unfortunately for them he doesn't earn enough to pay it in one fell swoop and didnt get it all. The cheeky beggars phoned and asked for him to pay the rest by credit card!!! HELLO you have left us with NOTHING how can we pay? Worst thing is we have a statement dated a week ago from the CSA giving his monthly payments not a single mention of any owed money. HOW CAN ONE AGENCY BE SO WRONG ??

The csa should not be called the child support agency it should be gsa government support agency as they only intervene when the mother is claiming benefit.
The farther pays the csa not the mother they are full of pretencious public school girls pretending to help the mother. The mother is also forced to disclose thefarthers name or get her benefit stopped making her vulnerable to violence and intimidation nothing in great britain the government benefits the people only there concern is revenue protection and statistics.I HATE CIVIL SEVANTS.