Some pubs not family friendly, children not welcome
I have a gripe about family rooms in pubs. I was due to meet my friends for lunch as one of them was celebrating their birthday. I had my thirteen-year-old As pergers boy with me and to be honest, I am very disappointed by the way the bar staff treated us. |
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I was told that I had to leave because of my child The barmaid at the pub told me that I had to sit in the family room with him to eat my meal, which was fine and I was quite happy to do this. I then went to get my friend and I a drink to celebrate her birthday and was told that I had to leave because I had finished my meal. She said that I couldn't have a drink because my son was with me and it was due to the licensing laws. We had to leave, even though he was not having a drink or eating; it made no difference that he was just sat quietly next to me playing a gameboy. |
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Not only that, when I went back to tell my friends and politely take my leave, she came up to me again and insisted that I leave the bar. It felt as though I was being thrown out just because I dared to have a child with me! I don't know if this kind of thing is quite common or not, but I couldn't see the problem as I was the parent and he wasn't even having a drink let alone alcohol. Why was he not allowed to just sit by me? If he'd been a toddler, would we have been treated in the same manner? Also, it was extremely embarrassing to be told to leave the way that I was. Needless to say neither I, nor my friends will ever visit that pub again and I would like to know exactly what the licensing law does say about this matter. For example, in a restaurant you wouldn't expect to be kicked out as soon as you had eaten would you? In some pub chains such as Brewers Fayre, you can have a meal and a drink with family and not be immediately evicted as soon as you'd finished. I thought that this was the whole idea of family rooms? |
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Rubbish Mrs Moon. I respect the fact that some pubs should welcome children, but certainly not all. Adults are quite right to want some adult only spaces, irrespective of how children behave. I want to be in an environment with alcohol, talking to adults about adult things, including the odd expletive now and again, s*xual innuendos if appropriate as a source of humour, generally an adult level of talk that does not have to pay any regard to the presence of children. You are quite wrong to say that 'all pubs should be brought up to date and be made child friendly pubs!' Quite, quite wrong. Adults need their own space just as much as children. Our society is becoming so extremely accomodating to children that it is getting ridiculous. It simply is not too much to ask that some pubs - perhaps the majority! - should be adult only spaces to give us all a breather from the demands of children who are intrinsically so egotistical.
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miserablemoaninggit - 24-Jan-12 23:54
For the people who think children should not be allowed in a pub, I run a pub near the sea side and welcome children in our pub. Parents take their kids away for a family holiday. They come to eat and socialise with a good none rowdy atmosphere. Admitted I don't allow them at the bar and I do tell them if they get a bit out of control. Then I let the parent know that I have told them off, I have never had any problems with it. Incidently I don't allow swearing, drugs or lager louts. So all in all YES kids should be welcome in pubs as long as they are kept under control. All pubs should be brought up to date and be made child friendly pubs!
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I agree with freddie, If you don t like it don t go to pubs !! Have you nothing better to do? on a nice day go to the sea side,walking,what is this fixation with going to the pub with children? leave the pub to ADULTS.
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ooh you bounder - 8-May-11 20:08
I say name & shame the pub along with the person who asked you to leave. I do hope you complained to the senior.
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I am sorry that you experienced this type of behaviour in the pub you mentioned.
My pub in North Yorkshire is totally different although we do not have a family room we welcome children as long as they are sitting with their parents and are well behaved. The only thing we like to insist on is that children do not come to the bar as that is where we sell alcohol and also the law states that children should not be at the bar.
Here's hoping the family above experience a better environment next time.
My pub in North Yorkshire is totally different although we do not have a family room we welcome children as long as they are sitting with their parents and are well behaved. The only thing we like to insist on is that children do not come to the bar as that is where we sell alcohol and also the law states that children should not be at the bar.
Here's hoping the family above experience a better environment next time.
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Some pubs not family friendly???
That's fair enough thoug isn't it! They're places for adults, not children.
That's fair enough thoug isn't it! They're places for adults, not children.
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When I was a kid in the early 70s, you just didn't take kids into pubs - even using a loo was controversial. Pubs are for adults - and I guess it's the reverse of my local park no longer admitting adults without kids! (Coram's Fields, London WC1 - should you disbelieve.)
Do wonder why pubs are now assumed to be universally family friendly. I will drink, smoke and swear in a pub because it's an adult enviroment.
Do wonder why pubs are now assumed to be universally family friendly. I will drink, smoke and swear in a pub because it's an adult enviroment.
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One of the reasons that so many British children are delinq.uent little thugs is that, unlike in many other countries, they are excluded from normal family outings because of archaic laws.
If children were allowed in licensed premises with parents, most adults would act more responsibly and drink less. There will always be the few mo.rons who will spoil it for everyone else.
In most of Europe, for example, there is a more responsible attitude to drinking and it is very rare to see drun.ken youths pu.king in the gut.ters and all the other vile behaviour seen in the streets of many British cities at night. Except of course when those dru.nken youths are Brits on holiday in countries like Spain.
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If children were allowed in licensed premises with parents, most adults would act more responsibly and drink less. There will always be the few mo.rons who will spoil it for everyone else.
In most of Europe, for example, there is a more responsible attitude to drinking and it is very rare to see drun.ken youths pu.king in the gut.ters and all the other vile behaviour seen in the streets of many British cities at night. Except of course when those dru.nken youths are Brits on holiday in countries like Spain.
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Having read the objections below to children being in a pub it is clear none have actually bothered to actually read the original "gripe", namely that the child in question was not causing any bother to anyone else in the pub. To all the pathetic people, in particular to the lady whose husband doesn't like children in a pub (you should be proud that people fought so hard for you for equality in the past) go to the park bench where you don't have to watch your "p & q's" as the lady so wanted to protect on behalf of her equally pathetic husband, and get drunk in the company of your equally pathetic sumps. Why is this country so hostile to families being allowed to socialise together?
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sick of sad childrenless alkie - 27-Mar-11 22:44
Actually given the choice between how most children behave and how some adults behave in pubs I think I'd prefer a pub full of kids. Good grief people show some tolerance, not all kids are manic hyperactive duracell bunnies. Pubs are a great family choice for parents that want to have their kids enjoy a healthy and inexpensive meal - adults don't own exclusive rights on them. The only reason someone with a child should be asked to leave is if they are disturbing other guests - and that holds true for adults also
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Most pubs aren't "family friendly" if they take more than 30 minutes to serve a drink and Sunday dinner. These pubs just want your money without providing the service.
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Grubby Landlords - 22-Feb-11 16:57
I don't object to children in pubs provided that they sit still and silently next to their parent or guardian. However, if they make a noise or move, they, and the adults who have selfishly taken the children into the pub, should be immediately thrown out because they are spoiling the enjoyment of others.
The staff should take the initiative; it should NOT be necessary for other customers to complain.
The staff should take the initiative; it should NOT be necessary for other customers to complain.
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Colonel Ormsby - 22-Feb-11 15:49
they made a bad mistake allowing children into pubs, it is not the childs fault when they run around but the selfish parents who think they can just ignor them and annoy everyone else.
i was in a pub this week and a couple turned up with a boy of about 5, he then was going to climb over the seats we were sitting at all over my husbands coat. they parents were not worried but I did say to them 'do you mind'. it should be the law if you take childrens into a pub they do not go to the bar - or run around
i was in a pub this week and a couple turned up with a boy of about 5, he then was going to climb over the seats we were sitting at all over my husbands coat. they parents were not worried but I did say to them 'do you mind'. it should be the law if you take childrens into a pub they do not go to the bar - or run around
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There are plenty of place for families to eat together with everyone else. I avoid pubs in general, as they are mainly full of alcoholics. Alcohol is the main part of the pub and not the grub.
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"Rule Britannia" has hit the nail on the head - a backward country indeed.
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Children don't belong in pubs - PERIOD. As someone intelligent stated below, a jovial atmosphere in a pub with alcohol can turn into a dangerous one in a split second. If you really love your children, why increase the likelihood of putting them in harm's way?
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"Why take your children to a place full of drunks?"
That's an Interesting comment as most of the pubs in our town are not full of drunks; I think your missing the Difference between a Pub lunch/snack & the wild west.
There are lots of pubs in our town and as a parent you need to be sensible and not take them to the Rowdy pubs, You & me know where to take children and where not to, So maybe on this thread no-one is right we all have our opinions, But my view is If you cannot control your kids and they are p1 ss1in other off then you shouldn’t be there. If however the kids are quiet and well behaved then stay and as for watching p's and q's as wrinkly said, I wouldn’t want to go to a pub with my misses and hear bad language that’s just showing lack of vocabulary,
go home and swear at wrinkly :)
That's an Interesting comment as most of the pubs in our town are not full of drunks; I think your missing the Difference between a Pub lunch/snack & the wild west.
There are lots of pubs in our town and as a parent you need to be sensible and not take them to the Rowdy pubs, You & me know where to take children and where not to, So maybe on this thread no-one is right we all have our opinions, But my view is If you cannot control your kids and they are p1 ss1in other off then you shouldn’t be there. If however the kids are quiet and well behaved then stay and as for watching p's and q's as wrinkly said, I wouldn’t want to go to a pub with my misses and hear bad language that’s just showing lack of vocabulary,
go home and swear at wrinkly :)
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Wild west? My point is that pubs are not for children, they never have been! we could argue for ever and a day about good pubs and bad pubs. But a good pub can turn into a bad pub in an instant.
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"Why take your children to a place full of drunks?"
That's an Interesting comment as most of the pubs in our town are not full of drunks; I think your missing the Difference between a Pub lunch/snack & the wild west.
There are lots of pubs in our town and as a parent you need to be sensible and not take them to the Rowdy pubs, You & me know where to take children and where not to, So maybe on this thread no-one is right we all have our opinions, But my view is If you cannot control your kids and they are p1 ss1in other off then you shouldn’t be there. If however the kids are quiet and well behaved then stay and as for watching p's and q's as wrinkly said, I wouldn’t want to go to a pub with my misses and hear bad language that’s just showing lack of vocabulary,
go home and swear at wrinkly :)
That's an Interesting comment as most of the pubs in our town are not full of drunks; I think your missing the Difference between a Pub lunch/snack & the wild west.
There are lots of pubs in our town and as a parent you need to be sensible and not take them to the Rowdy pubs, You & me know where to take children and where not to, So maybe on this thread no-one is right we all have our opinions, But my view is If you cannot control your kids and they are p1 ss1in other off then you shouldn’t be there. If however the kids are quiet and well behaved then stay and as for watching p's and q's as wrinkly said, I wouldn’t want to go to a pub with my misses and hear bad language that’s just showing lack of vocabulary,
go home and swear at wrinkly :)
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The Weatherspoons in Dunstable sounds like my sort of pub. Management keeping an eye on
adults and their children. It makes a change to letting them run around out of control and spoiling
it for people that just want a few drinks and to relax.
I am afraid that the person who wrote the write-up really should take a course in english and spelling!!!
adults and their children. It makes a change to letting them run around out of control and spoiling
it for people that just want a few drinks and to relax.
I am afraid that the person who wrote the write-up really should take a course in english and spelling!!!
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