Driving lessons, wrong time and place

Totally concur with the points made.

I had to brake urgently just the other day on the northerly Moortown roundabout on the Leeds ring road at 5.45 pm because a petrified looking learner made a bad call when joining the roundabout.

What the heck were they doing on a busy roundabout at peak evening rush hour time?

Being the only available time to take the lesson and paying for the service does not excuse the instructor's blatant stupidity.

You are forgetting one little thing. Maybe the learner can only learn at these times. They are paying for a service and regardless of what you think are entitled to experience rush hour, impatient nit wits, people who have been driving for years and yet FORGET to indicate on roundabouts adding to the delay.... but hey thats another gripe altogether

By rules of the road and sticking to lane 2, I mean not undertaking.

I have noticed more and more recently, more Learner drivers out on the road. Usually, I don't notice them enough to remember them days later. The reason I do remember them though is that they have taken to driving down the overtaking lane of duel carrageways at 40 in a 60 zone and do not move over into lane 1, despite no traffic for 100 - 200 meters of clear road. It is clear because the lorry that the learner thinks they will overtake at 40 is infact driving at 56 and this means he is pulling away.

Lane 1 is usefull too, especially when everyone is obeying the rules of the road and sticking to lane 2. Creating a tailback as far behind as the eye can see.

People soon forget we all were learners,also people have got zero patience,Where I live if you don t drive away at green light in a nano second,somebody will tooting,shaking fists etc,but learn how to use the clutch & acc before going out on a main road(sorry to all learners!)

I think your being slightly inconsiderate! I have been passed for a while now, I only had lessons mid-mornings because I was extremely nervous when I started especially about people being inconsiderate towards me and I regret it!! The first time I got stuck in rush hour traffic after I passed I just didn't know what to do, I stalled lots of times and caused trouble for cars around me. I only made all these mistakes because it was a new situation that I hadn't expierienced and facing the traffic on my own was daunting. Surely it would be better for learners to have lessons during rush hour, I know for a fact I would have caused less hassle if I had experienced more lessons during rush hour with my instructors help.

Having just recently passed, I know how daunting driving as a learner can be, and I am positive that having lessons during busy periods is an absolute must. Yes, it may inconvenience those of you who have been driving for years and are on your way to work, but I would much rather I had an instructor next to me, and I was in a dual controlled car, than I get left to my own devices in busy traffic without a clue what to do!

I am a learner and have been for about 2 months and I personally feel confident about roundabouts/junctions/driving in traffic etc. but I can understand if a learner has trouble getting their confidence up in a difficult situation, especially if it's on a gradient or in the rain. I was behind one who stalled twice at some traffic lights but it's nothing to get wound up about. We've all got to learn sometimes and some people should think back to how they felt when they were in a difficult situation

As the original poster says, learners need to have some experience before being taken on busy roads; and then maybe a short stretch where they can get on & off again fairly quickly to see how they get on would be in order. But they certainly do need the experience of a busy road sometime.

Maybe, just maybe, it's better for the learner to go out on a busy road with their instructor, rather than never doing it, getting a license then causing obstruction/danger once they're out on their own?

You need to calm down and have some patience. The world doesn't revolve around you.

Totally agree with the comments of ADI6/ Dave and Shea.
In addition the Instructor in question that held this poor motorist up, may have been a trainee instructor him/herself and new to the area/job!!
Maybe the student suddenly became nervous at the amount of traffic around them, there are various reasons why the situation ocurred. An experienced ADI would have structured the lesson, in the way Dave the Instructor has stated. But sometimes, humour nature can be unpredictable!
ADI Grade 6 /Instructor trainer/Dip Di/M.I.A.M/ Lgv C+E/Motorcycle.