Thugs that killed an old lady

There is a saying what goes around comes around and one day if things continue as they are these thugs will be old and frail,and just with a bit of luck they themselves may experience what it is like to be a victim.
Just waiting for a member of the doogooder brigade to say well they probably wasnt breast fed as a baby or they were an only child, or they may have been abused in some way the list goes on.
This country must be the laughing stock of the world, get the birch brought back and lets get some spine take the country back from the thugs.

Cheryl

I would also like to see less anti-social behaviour and lower crime figures but I don't see how National Service would make any difference. Many criminally minded men went in and they still came out as criminals.

The Kray twins did National Service and they were not what you would call model citizens.

I think that by that age a person’s character has mostlu already formed. Teaching people respect and consideration for others needs to start a lot earlier.

They should bring back the cane in schools to teach these unruly brats some discipline.And also restore national service too.Political correctness has just gone mad in this country.If I had cheeked my parents when I was a little girl then I was given a sound beating.It did me no harm.Neither it has with my young daughter either.

I've often thought that there should be a government department that makes rubbish who perpertrate this kind of thing 'disappear'. They deserve no mercy.

"The gallows it does well.But how does it do well?It does well to all that do ill."Hang the scum.

They should bring back public executions.My great grandmother was witness to such a spectacle way back in 1868 when she lived in the east end of London.It intilled fear in the community for generations.The people were poor & petty crime was as rife as it is today.But people had respect for each other & shared what little they had.Now there is no respect,no manners,or civility.Just incompetence,stupid political correctness gone mad,& idiotic pathetic do-gooders who argue for the rights of these vermin.No wonder the country is in the state that it is in today.These thugs should be hanged.

Part of the answer is the death penalty. Handing out 3 month custodial sentences is derisory. The death penalty will only work when the police and judicial systems have their hands untied and are allowed to hand down meaningful sentences.

Until such time as that happens, and the sad reality is that that will be never as the death penalty has been outlawed by the people who run the UK, that's those bunch of bloodsucking incompetent corrupt politicos in Brussels, then Dr. Pepperfan's solution is the way to go.

Horrible to think that this happens in a so-called civilised society. My sypmathies to the lady's family and friends.

I have severe difficulty in recognising these sub-human creatures as fellow UK citizens. There is, of course, no simple answer to the problem of violence against anyone, let alone the elderly and other vunerable people.

Anyone who suggests that they have 'the solution' is foolish in the extreme.

I belive the best way to teach these lowlives a lesson would be big hard looking men with baseball bats go round in vans abducting the thugs and drive them away and beat the living daylights out of them until their black and blue , bruised and broken and dump them in the middle of nowhere so the vigilantes can't be caught

these scum do It because society doesn't frighten them we make the laws and they laugh at them
cowards should be taught a lesson .no wonder vigilante groups are turning up and so right
don't be afraid of these scumbags more of need to have a go and not get prosecuted for doing so
an english mans home Is his castle and we have the right to protect It .but the law does'nt see
It that way that's why these scumbags get away with light sentencing a discgrace to society

"What happens if a burglar/intruder is caught on the wire and an artery is severed?"

Assuming it isn't a child going for a ball, then the scumbag that wants to steal your belongings that you've worked thousands of hours to earn, so that he or she can sell them or have them for themselves deserve to be severely hurt. That may be a deterant.

I was a teacher in New York, but I quit and became a stockbroker. My students had become so out-of-control it was impossible to teach, and please don't believe what you saw in the films COACH CARTER, FREEDOM WRITERS, or TAKE THE LEAD. There are no "miracle" teachers who can turn these kids around.

90% of the problem is the parents, who are clueless or just don't feel like being the parent. The fathers are nowhere to be found, and the mothers have one kid after another by different men (none of whom pay child support or see their kids).

But I know part of the root of the problem:

1. There was a spike in teenage pregnancies in the 1990's. My students were all born around that time. They're all angry, fatherless, and their mothers may be on drugs, so they're often raised by relatives. They have no stable family unit. Kids like that don't learn right from wrong. That's why I often gave the kids literature about birth control. I think we're making some progress there.

2. You'd think the parents would say "you want Nikes, then get a job and pay for them." But no, the parents spoil the kids rotten and expect nothing in return. Only one of my students had a part-time job, so I brought in a stack of job applications from Starbucks, McDonalds, Gap, Old Navy, Haagen Daz, etc. None of them turned in their applications. Parent need to be convinced not to give their kids Ipods, cell phones, Xboxes, or other doodads unless the kids get good grades or pay for it htemselves.

I lived in Britain from 1987-1992. Things weren't great back then, but I hear it's worse now. Remember the "Millers" family from "East Enders"? When families are like that, the kids are bound to turn out bad.