Cooking guidelines for steak restaurants
17-May-2008
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Why can't you get a decent steak anywhere these days?  By ‘decent steak’, what I mean is one that has been cooked to your liking.  So many steak restaurants seem to be incapable of this simple task.

A Steakhouse that knows exactly how to cook a Steak, This one in Witney!

I really do enjoy a good steak, but get fed up every time I go out to eat and order one, and it arrives either too well done or too rare.  Why do they bother asking how you would like your steak if they can't cook it right?

A couple of weeks ago I ordered a steak and asked for it to be cooked medium, the way I like it.  When it arrived it was practically cremated and was quite tough to eat.  I sent it back to the kitchen and the second steak wasn't any better so I gave up and just ate it.

The other weekend I went there again, this time I thought if I ordered it medium-rare I might get it how I like it.  But you wouldn't believe it, it actually arrived medium rare.  All the steaks I have had have been at the same pub, I guess it depends on which cook is in that day.  I really do think that there should be some sort of guidelines on how to cook steaks because everywhere I go they cook it differently.

Cooking a steak isn’t exactly difficult and with some training most kitchen staff should be up to the task.  One thing I have noticed is they don't seem to take into account the thickness of the steak.  So if you ask for medium and it's a thin steak you get a well-done steak - if it's a thick steak you get medium-rare.

What do you have to do to get a decent steak around here?


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The reason why you can't get a decent steak anywhere these days is simple.This is Great Britain.We put up with crap food & service & dare not complain when we are being ripped off for the privelage.If you want a decent steak & chips with all the sauce & trimmings for under a fiver then go to the continent.British food is the pits.Don't put up with it.COMPLAIN!
*Laughing Gravy  29-Apr-2008 23:21

 
some are saying to continue cooking in he oven, but no one is mentioning the temperature to set the oven at.....
*mr.wants to cook a good damn steak!  20-Mar-2008 02:24

 
Season first then seal in the juices by searing the steak in a hot frying pan with olive oil,

then cook in the oven gas 6 as follows

For rare cook for 4 minutes

Med rare 8 minutes

Med 11 mins

Med - well - 14 mins

Well 18 mins.

This works for fillet steak 1.5 - 2 inches thick.
*Andy P  02-Jan-2008 21:09

 
I think you are all idiots who dont appreciate what cooks do. a steak is cooked to a guideline (good common sense and good eyes) and the customer wants it cooking to his or her taste. Cooking a steak you can never win.
The better quality of the meat the more you pay bet you get better results.
The best steakeaters are the ones that stay to local produce and not imported sh1t like a cow that hasnt seen grass in all its life.

once you find somewhere, you will never look back.
*Ramzer  23-Dec-2007 00:23

 
sear your steak in a saucpan to seal it rest it and then finish in a oven before resting again.dolmio>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*head chef sydney  12-Dec-2007 07:00

 
I'm going to have steak for lunch and I assure you it will be yummy. A nice piece of sirloin from the local butcher cooked rare. Yummy for my tummy!
*Steakman3000  11-Dec-2007 08:28

 
I've just been informed by an Executive Chef that many factors will decide how one request for a medium will differ from another. Some reasons are as follows: size, age, whether the animal was injured or not and the length of time the piece/portion was left out of the fridge. Happy reading carnivores.
*Pink&Juicy  23-Aug-2007 05:45

 
How can somebody see inside a steak? Order medium rare, and usually get a good steak.
If you want it barely pink, how do you expect anybody to be able to do that without cutting it
open? People that order medium seem to be the most picky. They want it both ways,
and expect a miracle.
*jbw  07-Aug-2007 08:24

 
Can I point out, that you're saying you can't get a decent steak "anywhere" these days, but that you've only ever eaten it in one pub! I guess the customer's always right eh?
You should vote with your feet and go somewhere else perhaps? And maybe not cast judgements on an entire industry on the basis of bad pub grub from one establishment.
Note the manic replies from chefs pointing out 80 hour weeks.
I worked as a cook for ten years, and if you go to a high-class establishment, with high turnover and experienced cooks who respect the product, you'll get what you're looking for almost every time.
Without trying to be mean, if you eat in crap places, ie: a pub, you'll get crap food.
Pretty simple.
*Ex-chef  31-Jul-2007 04:41

 
Leave meat out of the fridge for over 10 Min's, are you nuts, that a nice way to kill off your customers you silly person. You will generally find that in all areas of the catering industry not all of them are bad and not all of them are goods, but they certainly are not all rubbish .

Try working behind an area which you would be for over 80 hours a week with heat from the front, back and the pressure of tickets constantly getting at you, and management telling you to push the tickets out without care of the food quality. This is the point where you get poor quality in foods, and the management will be the first to grab you by the nads and give you a roasting even though you had no choice of the matter because they were the first to tell you hours before.

If you have a good chef that cares for the quality and a good team behind him, you will have good food in a reasonable time with food presented to you in a reasonable manner, even fully qualified chefs from top colleges I have seen not being able to cope with the pressure because their heads are completely trained in the high quality take your time and not working 80 hours a week and in the conditions that the normal world works in, and with so many of them giving up.

I was trained by a great chef by the name of Stuart Dobson, he also showed me how to stay calm and show that in a way of not caring ..would actually produce you into giving more quality and stay calm in the process.

there are many other aspects you need to look at as well for poor food.

low running stock.... if you are busy and the stock is running low then your brain has to cope with the fact that you need to place different items than you are used to on the grill etc and remember how they are cooked, and that's not easy especially when you are asked half way through to change the order , then decide if you can use the items for something else.
*Mathew l  11-Jun-2007 13:50

 
also it is best to take the steak out of the fridge to mature for about half an hour too mature fogot to put comment on above e mail.
*s mc mob 07989 114515  06-Mar-2007 14:35

 
Cooking in pratice

Rare= Raw, straight out of the fridge. May be melted.
med. rare= Cooked over a candle for 15 seconds.
med. = The bacteria are still alive and crawling all over it.
med well = Leather, tanned and cured.
well done= A lump of charcoal.
*Stakeholder  05-Mar-2007 18:17


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